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    Your story sounds so familiar, but for me the F and the T should be swapped. After years of trying, I finally got to a point where my logical side was no longer hampered by a boiling-over of emotions. I could actually think things through clearly without applying an emotion to each new thought.

    Mind you ... emotions will still get the better of me sometimes, especially when I'm stressed. But, my logical side is stronger now, and it has the ability to calm my emotional side. It's kind of weird when it actually works.

    For example, the other night I got caught in a "worry loop." I don't know if this is an intuitive's problem, or just INFJ, but let me explain.

    Prior in the day, I realized that I'd forgotten to follow up on a work project that I should've been over and done with. I only realized it when I had to report to my supervisor about the states of my projects. It was one of those brain-fart kinds of situations. "Aw, how did I MISS THIS?!"

    That night, without really thinking about it, my brain constructed a series of events that were definitely going to take place and eventually lead to me getting fired. I convinced myself that it was going to happen and I started pacing the house, obsessing about the scenario.

    Logic stepped in and said, "There are multiple ways this event could play out. See how many end with you getting fired." So, I constructed several scenarios and played them all out. Only the first one ended with me getting fired. All the rest of them ended with my supervisors saying, "Oh, yeah? Just finish it."

    But, the worry still wasn't going away. It was too late, the cover had come off the kettle and the water was boiling over, out of control. So, turning inward, I adressed my worry, "You are being destructive. Logically, I really have nothing to worry about, and even if I did have something to worry about, I have no ability to change it RIGHT NOW. SO WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?!"

    The worry went away.

    It was as strange as it was a relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrME View Post
    But, the worry still wasn't going away. It was too late, the cover had come off the kettle and the water was boiling over, out of control. So, turning inward, I adressed my worry, "You are being destructive. Logically, I really have nothing to worry about, and even if I did have something to worry about, I have no ability to change it RIGHT NOW. SO WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?!"
    I tend to have an opposite problem. I become so detached and apathetic towards the world that I don't even care about consequences. Then I need to mentally smack myself and say something like "No that's stupid. You wont enjoy the consequences, so stop it before they occur."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    I tend to have an opposite problem. I become so detached and apathetic towards the world that I don't even care about consequences. Then I need to mentally smack myself and say something like "No that's stupid. You wont enjoy the consequences, so stop it before they occur."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    I tend to have an opposite problem. I become so detached and apathetic towards the world that I don't even care about consequences. Then I need to mentally smack myself and say something like "No that's stupid. You wont enjoy the consequences, so stop it before they occur."
    I always do this. Like if I don't have a paper done on time, and I know I can't possibly finish it, I start to think, "oh well, I don't give a shit anyway. They can kick me out of school for all I care...it's a shitty program anyway." Then an hour later I come to my senses and realize that I would feel like shit if I got kicked out of the program, so I come up with some scheme to fix the situation. In the case of the paper, I usually make up some excuse, or I plead with the prof, or I work really really hard but sacrifice quality to get it done on time.
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    Smile Lovely, lovely words!!!!

    I feel a similar sensation when I develop my Te (inferior). It's like WOW a break from all these feelings! This feels weird! I am not thinking about my interests, I'm not thinking about how I feel about something, I'm not taking in everyone's emotions. I'M USING LOGIC!
    Wow! I thought this might be happening in opposite with you feelers...its really amazing, isn't it...

    I feel like its a child just growing up and it has to get bigger and stronger, but its wonderful to have some of the balance that we all need to relate best with others and ourselves....thanks for the comment



    Well my Fe was always very well developed. But there were times where i was heavily neglecting it and denyings its existance. Thinking by denying its existance i can find the ultimate truth. That logic rules the world.
    I do not know the inner worlds of others, but I have never seen an NT that wasn't rational most of the time as a young person...I used to want to WILL my emotions to happen, but of course, it doesn't work like that...so I wonder how and NT can also have F young?? I am at loss of words as to how to ask how you know this???


    Your story sounds so familiar, but for me the F and the T should be swapped. After years of trying, I finally got to a point where my logical side was no longer hampered by a boiling-over of emotions. I could actually think things through clearly without applying an emotion to each new thought.
    YES! YES! its so great not to be BOILING over with THINKING, instead of feeling emotion...I totally FEEL and UNDERSTAND the need for balance...what a relief! I feel so grateful for this wonderful new world. Which one would you wish? I know now it doesn't matter. It was the way it was meant to be and I love it!!! I wonder what the equivalent for an F is when I say "Entp's, NOT TO THINK!!!! YIPPEE!!!!"



    I tend to have an opposite problem. I become so detached and apathetic towards the world that I don't even care about consequences. Then I need to mentally smack myself and say something like "No that's stupid. You wont enjoy the consequences, so stop it before they occur."


    YEs, i can see if that happens now...I actually WORRY sometimes about how to say things now...WOW!!! its amazing at how easy it is to say the "right" words now...before I just had to keep the lip zipped!!



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    ^
    Well developed Fe doesn't mean the person isn't rational, it just mean one can actually use it. there are time when logic isn't really needed.

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    I do not know the inner worlds of others, but I have never seen an NT that wasn't rational most of the time as a young person...I used to want to WILL my emotions to happen, but of course, it doesn't work like that...so I wonder how and NT can also have F young?? I am at loss of words as to how to ask how you know this???

    I had tons of feelings, overwhelmingly so they controlled my most of the time...Now it's the opposite, yet I keep a balance of T and F, having become active with managing oneself with this balance.
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    I do not know the inner worlds of others, but I have never seen an NT that wasn't rational most of the time as a young person...I used to want to WILL my emotions to happen, but of course, it doesn't work like that...so I wonder how and NT can also have F young?? I am at loss of words as to how to ask how you know this???
    I have never met a 3 year old who, having their chocolate taken away and given arbitrarily to another child, isn't going to react strongly, and in an emotional sense.
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