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    I understand Ne pretty well, though I could see it might be odd if you were not an Ne. Endless possibilities everywhere, what's next, never stop exploring the boundaries and so on.

    I am a little lost about what it means to be Ni. I see it leading to a profound sense of stuboorness and strength. it can be difficult to get close to and very hard to get them to change thier minds once they have decided upon the "correct answer".

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    Ni focuses on interconnection. Where Ne has endless possibilities, Ni see how all the different possibilities can be linked together into a whole. It gives a sense of unity... how everything all fits together.
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    You could ask the SPs too. Stubborn buggers, them. Or the NFJs. Real hard heads.

    Or maybe there's a different stubborn, huh? Maybe someone has been sittin' in a tree,

    K I S S I N J.


    Hm?

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    Whenever I try to understand Ni, I just get confused. All these seemingly contradictory definitions. Really vague and obfuscating definitions, references to mysticism. Whenever I find something that I can understand, something else comes along and says its wrong. It seems like I would need to use Ni to understand Ni, even then, it seems doubtful.

    I've just given up on it.
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    I don't if this will help you (hope it will) :

    How to tell the forest from the trees?


    Extraverted iNtuiting
    - Thinks of the fractal patterns, the wide range of possibilities in the forest, how this forest is part of the ecosystem and is affected by pollution from the city...

    Introverted iNtuiting - Recognizes that the forest is deeply symbolic of all of life in its interconnectedness and constant recycling and growth and foresees that this forest will soon be torn down for a housing development...

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    Hypothesis:

    Ne - Metaphor second. When I want to describe something, I think of a metaphor that applies.

    Ni - Metaphor first. You see something and come up with a metaphor, then think of a way to apply it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tibby View Post
    I don't if this will help you (hope it will) :

    How to tell the forest from the trees?


    Extraverted iNtuiting
    - Thinks of the fractal patterns, the wide range of possibilities in the forest, how this forest is part of the ecosystem and is affected by pollution from the city...

    Introverted iNtuiting - Recognizes that the forest is deeply symbolic of all of life in its interconnectedness and constant recycling and growth and foresees that this forest will soon be torn down for a housing development...

    You mean Ni are sissies ?

    I agree
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Hypothesis:

    Ne - Metaphor second. When I want to describe something, I think of a metaphor that applies.

    Ni - Metaphor first. You see something and come up with a metaphor, then think of a way to apply it.
    Expanding on that...

    Ne: Metaphor to describe

    Ni: Metaphor to understand

    It seems like Ni has a natural tendency to turn things into symbolic representations. In some ways, to understand something, Ni goes... this is like XXX. Then it starts linking various components of the thing to different parts of XXX. Once it has a workable metaphor, then Ni manipulates the mental object in order to make conjectures about the real object.

    Ni rather introspect about the representation of the object rather than to poke at the physical object (like Se) in order to understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    Expanding on that...

    Ne: Metaphor to describe

    Ni: Metaphor to understand

    It seems like Ni has a natural tendency to turn things into symbolic representations. In some ways, to understand something, Ni goes... this is like XXX. Then it starts linking various components of the thing to different parts of XXX. Once it has a workable metaphor, then Ni manipulates the mental object in order to make conjectures about the real object.

    Ni rather introspect about the representation of the object rather than to poke at the physical object (like Se) in order to understand it.
    That makes sense. Ne leaves the understanding to Ji, and Ni leaves the doing to Je.
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    So what happens if u don't have Ji ?
    'cause I thought Ti was alright with the understanding part.

    /sarcastic tone off

    T\F J\P are about ordering the world while S\F E\I are more about the world-mind connections we do

    Contrary to the other functions I believe P is less of an affirmative quality. It's more about the 'weakness of J' than Pness.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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