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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Ah now, there are LOTs of things that can't be proven.

    Science - which you seem to be hanging you hat on, can PROVE accupuncture works, but it can't prove WHY it works.

    Tides are proven to be influenced by the moon

    100 years ago - science couldn't PROVE hormones exsists

    So I'm guesing you want to limit your thinking BIG time....

    Next thing you'll be telling me you don't beleive in Fairies :P

    Although I might need to fly - Jen's got a stick she wants to poke in my eye (WHAT did I ever do to her)... sheeesh

    Lis
    That just goes to prove my point, in dealing with the subject matter of astrology, by it's very nature, you're continually having to check it against that which is credible, and it takes a certain amount of trust, before you even begin, just to do that. Again, devil's advocate. I am open minded to things like astrology, but to partake in it, takes faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I am hardly getting all that you said, but I think you just mocked me.
    Sprung! But I wasn't being nasty - promise

    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post

    "to rule out the younger people, is like cutting your eyes out concerning the idea.
    Yea but when the young people are having temper tantrums without knowing anything at all about what they are talking about is really amusing don'tchathink?

    Why it would be like them talking and being hugely opinionated about the loch ness monster or the finate detail of a subject they have very little knowledge off. Wisdom is knowing when you know jack shit about something and act acordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Do me a favour and get the NT back into you. Your SJ status crap is scaring the hell outa me
    There is nothing S type about me and my P-ness is HUE, I work for and SJ organisation, so my NP stands out BIG time.

    for an ENTP you're a bit mainstream.

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    I quote Julia Roberts, "Every time someone says they don't believe in fairies, a fairy falls down dead".

    I quote Dustin Hoffman, "And no amount of clapping will bring you back from where I will send you"!

    LOL!
    "Truth stands true, independent of whether you agree with it or not."

    "Don't let what matters least, matter most."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post

    Why it would be like them talking and being hugely opinionated about the loch ness monster or the finate detail of a subject they have very little knowledge off. Wisdom is knowing when you know jack shit about something and act acordingly.

    Mainstream... well thanks
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    entropie - I'm just ribbing you - don't take offence

    Paisley - I LOVEd that movie!!!!

    Now now, all that anyone has proven here is that they have very limited exposure to a very big subject.

    If anyone around 35 can PM me their TIME, place and date of birth, I will either post a few major life events OR times when life was a wee bit stressful.

    Idealy someone who really really knows their time of birth.

    Last time someone did it - I hit the date within a week of their most upsetting time in their lives (and gave a reasonable explanation of the likely cause).

    Proof - pudding

    but right now I need to do some skipping or I'll get lardy and it's afte 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    So I'm guessing you really don't quite know what it is you are talking about
    Honestly I think you've got our roles reversed. Astrology is physically impossible.
    And not just Horoscopes. All of them are.

    Consider the implications of what astrology demands on the universe and get back to me.

    you making sweeping gneralisations about probably the experience you've had a one of the weakest forms of astrology - Horoscopes
    Putting aside the fact that having to rank astrology from best to worst is further proof of its falsehood, I've never seen a horoscope that told me about my personality. Usually they just tell me where some constellation is and what I need to watch out for.

    But I confess, I haven't read many -- the first 30 or so turned out to be wholly untrue except the things that were applicable to everyone; assertions like "you will continue breathing" or "masturbation is fun, but could be dangerous" or my favorite "careful, mercury is in hector's grade" among other fortune cookie style proverbs, and after that I figured they were nonsense, and reading them was a mistake not to be made again.

    This is retarded though.
    I can see everyone lawling at the downs syndrome kid in the corner.
    I need to leave.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Qre:us

    Please don't make stuff up and quote me, I didn't type validity in the above posts and that is misreprsenting me.

    "Originally Posted by tinkerbell
    Astrology....validity
    Lis"
    True, you didn't. My bad. Although, I would say I was deducing more than misrepresenting.

    In the other, "ENTP the hell outta ya" thread, one post made me infer:


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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post

    The reason MBTI has some validity is that the information on which its conclusions are based comes directly from the person him/herself, giving concrete information on his/her behavioral and information-processing preferences. MBTI doesn't create anything that isn't already there; again, it's just a handy system of efficient categorization. In short it allows for good educated guesses.

    Astrology, on the other hand, makes a bunch of totally unsubstantiated random guesses based on nothing but one's birth date.

    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    MBTI is basedon on Jung, Jung is based on astrology...go figure

    Love the lack of knowledge around here....

    ~Lis
    So, if the point you debate is that MBTI has validity, and to counter, you say, MBTI is based on Jung, which is based on astrology.....and anyone who would only question why astrology is not valid while not question MBTI has lack of knowledge?

    *sorry, was that inferring too much?

    *Aside - gotta say, I am loving you for your tenacity to stick with this topic, when the masses seem to be against you. That's badass legit! Much respect.

    But I do apologize, and will go back and edit my quote accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Now now, all that anyone has proven here is that they have very limited exposure to a very big subject.
    Yeah, you. Learn astronomy and tell me Astrology is true.

    If you have any worthwhile principles you won't be able to do it.
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    No offense taken, never mind.
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    I do not believe in astrology. Why? Because I see no evidence for it. If you can provide some hard evidence (such as experiments showing a high accuracy rate for horoscopes, and not something so generalized that it would apply to nearly anyone.), then I will definitely consider it.

    I'm not interested in the mechanisms of it right now, just, does it work?

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