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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Apparently you're not going to waste time learning to spell or compile cogent arguments either?
    I'm dyslexic - whats our excuse for being an ass hole

    you give really shite argument - you might as well say I'm right because I'm a real boy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Really? Planets get MORE powerful in terms of their effects on Earthly events based on greater distance?

    So given that the universe is so immeasurably vast, why aren't the comparatively miniscule effects of the planets in our solar system absolutely dwarfed by those of planets really far away?

    For that matter, do moons have any effect on the lives of Earthlings? Pluto was classified as a planet at the time this astrology shit was written, so it has an effect, but no other moons in our solar system or any others do? Shouldn't really far away moons from outside our galaxy have proportionally greater effects? Or do moons exhibit the opposite hierarchy in terms of proximity to Earth vs. effect on Earthly events?

    Do the planets have effects on events on other planets or other moons, or is it all confined to Earth?

    Oh let me guess--you're not going to "do my homework." Right, sorry for doubting you!

    And despite what everyone else here has said, I'm actually God. Don't believe them.
    You first paragraph is a cracker - it wasn't what was said... which has more impact on you...someone runs by you every 28 days and spend about 5 minutes in your company, or someone who stands right infornt of you for 2 years moving where you move....

    It's not about distance its about slowness of transit. and intensity of the visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    You first paragraph is a cracker - it wasn't what was said... which has more impact on you...someone runs by you every 28 days and spend about 5 minutes in your company, or someone who stands right infornt of you for 2 years moving where you move....

    It's not about distance its about slowness of transit. and intensity of the visit.
    I see. Slowness of transit between where and where, and what is it exactly that's in transit here? Am I correct in thinking that the good/bad vibes from planets become amplified the longer they spend traveling toward Earth? If this is the case, my question about more distant planets having a stronger effect still has not been answered.

    Also I am not exactly sure how a racial epithet for Caucasians relates to my first paragraph, so I will skip that part.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    I'm dyslexic - whats our excuse for being an ass hole

    you give really shite argument - you might as well say I'm right because I'm a real boy!

    Lis
    Well, I guess that approach would be good as any at this point, given that you've chosen to utterly ignore all of my actual points so emphatically thus far.

    How about that whole, "DOB-->Reliable, specific data on real people" connection? I still don't see how this is even in the same league as MBTI, which has reliable and specific data on people because they provide that data themselves. Care to answer this one yet, or would you rather just keep whining about my "shite argument"?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    I see. Slowness of transit between where and where, and what is it exactly that's in transit here? Am I correct in thinking that the good/bad vibes from planets become amplified the longer they spend traveling toward Earth? If this is the case, my question about more distant planets having a stronger effect still has not been answered.

    Also I am not exactly sure how a racial epithet for Caucasians relates to my first paragraph, so I will skip that part.
    Slowness of movment of the planet means it's more intense yes, wheather it's good or bad depending son the persons ability to make the most out of it.

    If you have difficult aspects between two planets, it can translate into someone who is a total mess in those areas (which is phrased as learning to use it appropriately) or someone who puts a lot of drive into these activites.

    If you suffer from being abused as a kid there is a fair chance you will abuse kids as a adult, there are other manefestations - like you deal with your shit and don't abuse your kids, or you work to help care for abused kids, or stuff like that.

    good stuff can work like that too, if your chart is too easy then often the person never gets anywhere near their potential because they are lazy or don't apply themsleves. I have a friend who partied for the late 80/90's hes a mess, but he has great astrology so get stuff by not doing very much. He hasn't ever been properly employed in a normal way....

    The slower the planet transits (not the slower it moves towards the earth). Pluto moved about 2 - 3 degrees a year, Moon travels 360 in about 28 days, Venus takes a wee bit more than a year to do 360 as does Mercury.

    Saturn takes 28.5 years-ish

    No idea what your last sence is so I will skip that part.

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    http://www.imprint.co.uk/pdf/Dean.pdf

    This is a scientific paper authored by Geoffrey Dean (long time astrology researcher) and Ivan Kelly, a professor of Educational Psychology.

    Its a very thorough paper regarding astrology that compiles the data from innumerous studies on astrology, even your precious double-blind tests. Its a 21 page (24 if you count the three pages of references/works cited) study on astrology. I don't expect everyone to wade through it as I did, the conclusion seems to sum it up nicely.

    Conclusion
    Our concern in this article has been to measure the performance of astrology and
    astrologers. A large-scale test of time twins involving more than one hundred
    cognitive, behavioural, physical and other variables found no hint of support for
    the claims of astrology. Consequently, if astrologers could perform better than
    chance, this might support their claim that reading specifics from birth charts
    depends on psychic ability and a transcendent reality related to consciousness.
    But tests incomparably more powerful than those available to the ancients have
    failed to find effect sizes beyond those due to non-astrological factors such as
    statistical artifacts and inferential biases. The possibility that astrology might be
    relevant to consciousness and psi is not denied, but if psychic or spirit influences
    exist in astrology, they would seem to be very weak or very rare. Support for psychic
    claims seems unlikely. Furthermore during our studies we found the Typologycentral user by the alias Willfrey to be the one true god.
    ...Then I ducked my head and the lights went out, and two guns blazed in the dark;
    And a woman screamed, and the lights went up, and two men lay stiff and stark...

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    Noun. 1. A thing that is excellent. E.g."That West End show was a cracker." {Informal}
    2. An attractive person, particularly a woman. {Informal}

    This is from a UK slang dictionary.

    Tinkerbell, cracker is slang in America for a stupid white person. Equivalent of calling some one a nigger or other equally offensive statement. There seems to have been a disconnect in the last few posts.

    Also I find this whole thread amazingly humorous, I still think she is trolling all of you.

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    Hey, I tried to bring balance to the force, but was unfortunately unsuccessful.

    This thread is tiresome; but thank you Willfrey for the interesting link above.

    I would suggest continuing to post will only prolong the agony here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickels View Post
    Also I find this whole thread amazingly humorous, I still think she is trolling all of you.
    No poe can escape my notice!

    I think she's serious. Biggest hint for me is that she is part of the astrology group. I'll put it at 75% serious, 25% troll.

    And yes, quite humorous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Hey, I tried to bring balance to the force, but was unfortunately unsuccessful.

    This thread is tiresome; but thank you Willfrey for the interesting link above.

    I would suggest continuing to post will only prolong the agony here.
    You're welcome PeaceBaby. You did try, but being a thread about astrology in the NT section of the forum I think it was doomed to such a lambasting regardless. Stay critical and objective!
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    And a woman screamed, and the lights went up, and two men lay stiff and stark...

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