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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
    All that proves is that INTP's are delusional, bro
    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    ENTP: They would "win", but only because no one understand what they're saying.
    INTP: Truth-seeking foremost, therefore they win, even if they lose.
    INTJ: Would lose, even if they don't realize it.
    ENTJ: They would lose, but convince you that they won.
    Your ENTJ mind tricks do not work on me!

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    Winning would be relative to me - even losing can be winning --> win.

    *flexes mind*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Your ENTJ mind tricks do not work on me!
    You're just repeating yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    Winning would be relative to me - even losing can be winning --> win.

    *flexes mind*
    WAR IS PEACE

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    You're just repeating yourself!
    Provide evidence!

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    When I used to have uh, frank discussions with my ENTJ partner, he would often "win" because I gave up, partly because he was sometimes too dismissive of alternative views, but mostly because I never really gave enough of a shit. But really we argued very infrequently.

    When I "won" it was because I was in that kind of mood where I'm just loving the mental and verbal workout of purely having the discussion, and I don't care what it's about or who wins, I just want to keep it going cos it's a platform on which I can sharpen my wits. So whatever the other person says, even if I agree, I'll counter argue it anyway, just to see if I can, and to see what they'll say, to see if I can counter argue it, etc... this tendency is what I think lies at the roots of the common misconception of me "needing to win" - it's not that that makes me refuse to stop pursuing it, it's the fact that I'm enjoying simply being able to work out my ideas and thoughts the way that's best for me: externally.

    It can go on forever with an ENTJ though cos they're the ones least likely IME to either back down, or start blubbing and taking things personally. There is a tendency to reductio ad absurdam though... which is annoying, but not as badly as the STJ's do it.

    I really love arguing with ENTJs
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    It can go on forever with an ENTJ though cos they're the ones least likely IME to either back down, or start blubbing and taking things personally.
    Amen!

    Its fun watching my ENTJ and INFJ siblings get into it, my ENTJ bro goes all emotional while trying to be logical and win at all costs and my INFJ sis gets all objective while trying to consider other people. Particularly amusing when the topic is some humanitarian issue.

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    ENTP would never back down on any points no matter what until they didn't even know what they were arguing about any longer, then they'd start arguing about arguing

    INTP would go off on so many tangents that the other person would have no idea what they are talking about and go find someone else to argue with

    INTJ would concede the battle to win the war.

    ENTJ would win the battle but lose the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pippi View Post
    ENTP would never back down on any points no matter what until they didn't even know what they were arguing about any longer, then they'd start arguing about arguing
    You mean sorta like what this thread turned into?

    Congrats LocalJEsus and pals on arguing about arguing! YOU CAN HAS PRIZE

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    ENTP: arguing is for people with "convictions"
    INTP: arguing is for people whose epistemological framework is lacking
    INTJ: arguing is for people who need to get back to work
    ENTJ: arguing is for people who crave a delicious knuckle sandwhich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilen View Post
    It's actually not xntp Vs xntj.

    ENTP: They'd want to win no matter what.
    INTJ: They want to win because they 'know' they're right.
    INTP: They know they're right, so they already won regardless of the debate.
    ENTJ: I don't know...They would probably lose the debate.
    love this...that's funny.
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