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    dads ENTx and moms ISFJ

    sure made each others lives hell but made for a very strong and well rounded team when it came to raising kids

    nature made me ENTP
    nurture gave me a fairly well-developed Fe and Se and whatever else that shit is which i cant identify

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    So. What does an INTP represent on a chessboard?
    Ti = 19 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Te = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ne = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fi = 15 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Si = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ni = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Se = 11[][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fe = 0

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    Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder why, why, why;
    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    So. What does an INTP represent on a chessboard?
    Queen's night.

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    Oh really? I heard that it was more accurate to be a queen's rook because we'll just sit there all day long until something causes us to move.
    Ti = 19 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Te = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ne = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fi = 15 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Si = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ni = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Se = 11[][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fe = 0

    -----------------
    Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder why, why, why;
    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    Oh really? I heard that it was more accurate to be a queen's rook because we'll just sit there all day long until something causes us to move.
    yeah but the rook is nothing but brute force...eliminate anything in its way like it was out for a stroll...it does have a few tricks like the castle move...also the rook is used to protection for everything else. if the rook stands guard, nothing can actually get past it without having to kill it. the rook can extinguish anything in its way from its spot to the either side of the board in all four directions regardless of how far the enemy piece is

    knight has the most unorthodox look and the most unorthodox move of any other piece...intps are like that...thinking and thinking and thinking and when they move, they move to the weirdest spot ever (in the L way that the knight does). the knight can never ever protect anything else...its just used to move forward and confuse the opponent thru by the implication of strategy...its a hit or a miss. from the center of the board, the knight can, at most, attack 8 spots

    holy shit...whyd i just type that much for chess...i havent even played the game in over 10 years

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    Creepy. I too am an ENTP with an INTJ father, ESFP mother, and INFJ brother! Things turned out a bit differently, though. Maybe I mistyped them.

    My dad doesn't use people as pawns; rather, he prefers to rely on himself and stay out of the business of people in general. Could your father be ENTJ? Mine hates the idea of social interactions. Thinks it makes things much too complicated. Maybe he's ISTJ. I don't know. He taught me not to worry so much about politeness and appearances and just made sure I make good life decisions. My mom, on the other hand, being an F type, often yells at my dad for being impolite to her friends or having irrational views on social situations as a whole, and she's always pushed me to have as much fun as possible and be nice to people (as long as she doesn't have to drive me anywhere!). The result was: me, a lazy, logical joker determined to be the best at everything with as little work done as possible. Dunno where my brother got his INFJ, though. He seems to take my dad literally for the most part and yet developed a mama's-boy F from the overcoddling my mom sometimes provided.
    A colleague of the great scientist James Watson remarked that Watson was always “lounging around, arguing about problems instead of doing experiments.” He concluded that “There is more than one way of doing good science.”
    It was Watson’s form of idleness, the scientist went on to say, that allowed him to solve “the greatest of all biological problems: the discovery of the structure of DNA.” It's a point worth remembering in a society overly concerned with efficiency.

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    I'm glad I haven't met you in RL.

    Anyways, my mom is an ENTJ and my dad is an ENFJ.
    Both are drama queens. I love them. They took out anyone that was against me and I lived a very sheltered life.

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    Congratulations, this is an excellent thread.

    My father is an INTP and my mother an ISTJ.

    Both of them are introverted although my mother was best at socialising.

    My father had an intense interest in technology. As a child he used to try to enthuse me about some electronic gadget or other. However, because of his method of delivery and the extreme detail and excess of information he'd provide I generally found my mind drifting elsewhere. But, without him I doubt I'd know as much as I do now or have such a great interest in computing. He was a very kind person and was generous with his time. He would think nothing of spending hours helping someone with a problem. He did not have any business sense or leadership capability. It was definitely my mother that made the decisions, but my father would procrastonate. He was extremently untidy - his garage was literally full of stuff like old computers, electronic circuit boards, parts for machines etc. I told him he was my hero and that I could not grasp how he seemed to know so much about so many subjects. He was very humble. He would tell me how smart he thought I was and how he could not do some of the things that I appeared to do naturally. He seemed to think I was fast. I didn't understand it at the time but now I suppose it's because I'm a heck of a lot more decisive.

    My mother is very introverted. However she was rigourous in her attention to dates: birthdays, wedding anniversaries etc. She always sent cards to people, even if she really didn't like them because I suppose she thought she had to. She still tells me to be careful now and is overly worried about my wellbeing. She instilled in me the need to be polite, to be punctual, to take care of my appearance (or at least to look smart), that it is important to eat well, that I 'should' do things, that I do as I were told because she said so. She loves me very very much to the point of smothering me. But she sure did look after me well!

    I have a younger sister who is INTJ. Suffice to say we get along well, as we have a similar sense of humour. We don't discuss feelings much. She is smart and learned from my mistakes, although my parents never saw much promise in her. She is extremely strong willed and organised and through this has managed to exceed anyones expectations. I think she's great!

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    hmm interesting. Mine was the same but opposite gender types.

    I'm an INTJ or INTX, I believe my father is an ESFP, and my mother I believe is an NT, maybe even INTJ. This created the odd dynamic of the woman wearing the pants in the house, at least thats kind of the way I saw it.

    I don't have much to say about them since our family was so dysfunctional and most of the time I was being raised with my brother by a mexican nanny.

    The most important things I learned from my parents wern't from taking their advise, but by observing their behavior and seeing the positive or negative consequences, and understanding why these things happened.

    Long story short though, esfp dad cheated on intj mom and they divorced. BUT I didn't really blame him because I believe my mother didn't show him enough affection(being the intj that she is), so he went elsewhere to get it. This ultimately showed me the importance of working on my weaknesses, it can bite you in the ass later in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    This ultimately showed me the importance of working on my weaknesses, it can bite you in the ass later in life.
    That sucks, but it's great that you learned from someone else's mistake and not your own. That's one thing you can be grateful for, for sure.

    I was raised with unhealthy ESTJs all around - narcissistic mother, sociopathic stepfather, maniacal older brother. This was the house of anger. My parents cheated on each other constantly, but would have blow out fights when they caught the other one doing it. No one ever wanted to come over to play with me - they were terrified, and they wouldn't have been allowed to anyway. As much as they stomped around about order and control, no one took an interest at all in me as long as I appeared to be doing what they told me to do. For instance, as long as I got up for school and left on time, and then came home before they got home from work, I was never questioned. I didn't go to school for months one year and they didn't know because I would keep the same schedule and I stopped bringing home report cards at age 8. No one asked me anything, no one taught me anything. They never engaged me in conversation because they said that I was "too damn inquisitive". They would yell at me to stop reading all the time since it wasn't practical.

    They both worked constantly, and traveled for their jobs, so I had very limited interaction with them. I was only spoken to when disciplined, or when I needed something. And I preferred it that way. My stepfather would give me anything I asked for just to get me to stop talking. I remember going to elementary school with hundred dollar bills regularly just because he didn't know what else to do with me. No one ever asked me what I spent all that money on week after week. Usually, most of it went to pay my brother off for not telling on me for something or the other. I was always up to something (you can see in the NT child's play thread).

    I never felt the need to argue with them, or openly rebel. I learned quickly that they like the appearance of submission but don't really understand that a word does not equal a mindset. When they caught me smoking at age 11 (thanks to my punk ass tattletale brother, of course), they went crazy. After they calmed down, they forbid me to ever smoke again. I said ok and then just continued to smoke for years and years. They never noticed and never asked, they just assumed I obeyed. The only things that they truly took time out to make sure I knew: my mom drilled the importance of independence and self-reliance over and over again; my stepdad forced me to have endless tennis and golf lessons so I could "succeed in the business world". I was a very happy child, which totally baffled them. I think they saw me as idiotic because I smiled all the time. I saw humor and contradiction in everything they said or did, and it amused me.

    They are very big on tradition and huge family get-togethers at the appropriate times, even though no one ever gets along and it always ends in tears or bloodshed (not even kidding). Every holiday, without fail. And even now, a week before every holiday, I still get that "reminder" email.

    I can't even begin to describe to you how much I hate authority and arbitrary rules. Totally scarred for life.

    It wasn't until my sisters (ENTJ and xNFJ) were born that things got interesting. I just bucked, ignored and manipulated the system until one day I just picked up and left, shocking everyone. But these girls faced it head on, fearless. The xNFJ by always talking to everyone about her problems, which was a cardinal sin in my parent's eyes. She would talk to friends, parents of friends, guidance counselors, gym teachers - I swear she would talk to a park bench. This would infuriate them. She is very stubborn and would take an incredible amount of "discipline" and never crack. She would just continue on, passively resisting them because of the "principle". She never hid anything from them - she did everything out in the open and forced them to deal with it and accept it. This wore them down and somehow tamed them. She has a manipulative control over them.

    Then the ENTJ came along and took no shit from anyone. That girl was a fearless adult from birth. She really tested them, and still does. No matter how much she has to go through, she never stops until she gets her way. Even though she could have it with much less effort, she challenges them to "prove a point" that she can't be controlled. I couldn't be bothered with all that. They are invisible to her - just mere stepping stones on her path to wherever she needs to go. And while she loves my other sister, she doesn't respect her and feels that she is too "preachy". Strangely, she defers to me though. If I tell her to stop doing something, she will stop in an instant - without question. But for the most part, the 3 of us are as thick as thieves.

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