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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickels View Post
    I honestly would like to just be the most ENTP I can be while ridiculing them about how shitty everything they force feed us is. I get to show power points as well. How TV is just rewritten, reruns of the same plot, characters and design of every fucking show. Do you know how many CSI's there are? what the fuck.
    Perhaps one of the ENTPs on the forum could come and tell how well that approach has worked for them in the past.

    Or you could just read up on the difference between constructive criticism and ranting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    do you have ideas how they can do that?
    How to make TV better? I have a list of ideas

    Less reality TV shows.
    Make things more accessible online.
    Less placed products.
    Less shows about doctors falling in love.
    Less shows with the "friends" theme.

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    sounds good...charm them with your ideas and don't turn them off with criticism and you should be good.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickels View Post
    How to make TV better? I have a list of ideas

    Less reality TV shows.
    Make things more accessible online.
    Less placed products.
    Less shows about doctors falling in love.
    Less shows with the "friends" theme.
    All these things, when implemented, will cause them to make less money. Try to put yourself in their shoes. The question is why your generation doesn't watch TV, not why TV is shitty. Those are two radically different questions. Be sure not to massage the topic to something you're more passionate about. Stay on point and offer them a message they will hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    All these things, when implemented, will cause them to make less money. Try to put yourself in their shoes. The question is why your generation doesn't watch TV, not why TV is shitty. Those are two radically different questions. Be sure not to massage the topic to something you're more passionate about. Stay on point and offer them a message they will hear.


    See here is where I disagree with you, they will be making more money if they actually make GOOD tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickels View Post
    See here is where I disagree with you, they will be making more money if they actually make GOOD tv.
    Not necessarily. They can make more money from 10 people watching a reality show than from 100 people watching a quality drama. It sounds like you are assuming that the reason your generation doesn't watch TV is the quality of the TV, and that is a dubious conclusion. There has always been crap, but the best TV is better now than it ever has been, and people still don't watch. The answer lies more in competition from other media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickels View Post
    See here is where I disagree with you, they will be making more money if they actually make GOOD tv.
    Then what you have to do is prove that to them, offer up alternatives, and explain how it would be better for them. It likely won't be easy, though. They're likely entrenched in their view, and why not? It's been working out great so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickels View Post
    The goal is to allow students to speak. I honestly would like to just be the most ENTP I can be while ridiculing them about how shitty everything they force feed us is. I get to show power points as well. How TV is just rewritten, reruns of the same plot, characters and design of every fucking show. Do you know how many CSI's there are? what the fuck.
    im not really on point, but hopefully this will jump start something in your brain... i felt like venting anyways haha

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    DRAMAS
    Tv series dramas are retarded because they have to keep coming up with "mini" climaxes every freaking week. so by the end of the season, its been an 8 hour movie with 16 climaxes!?? no movie could ever be successful so why should they expect a show to be?

    COMEDY
    comedy actaully makes sense as a TV genre because the plot doesnt have to move every freaking week. it can simply 'move' and doesnt have to keep getting more and more melodramatic every week to get people to watch out of fear that their favorite character is going to die . commedies also seem to get better as they go, while dramas only get worse.

    laugh tracks = the producers know the show isnt funny enough to stand on its own (exception being seinfeld)


    HUMOR ONLY SEEMS TO GO ONE DIRECTION--> FARTHER
    -animal house was the best movie ever to our parents generation...to us, its...'entertaining' but hardly laugh out loud funny.

    something like old school pushed the envelope a lot farther.

    -the simpsons was funny when it was the only game in town

    something like south park/family guy/futurama all push the envelope farther and are now liked better.

    OFF THE WALL --> CONSERVATIVE
    also of note is that the shows that are at first kind of 'off the wall' then become the 'new' more 'conservative' shows. example: southpark was a freaking weird show at first, now its fairly standard and one of the more conservative (i dont mean politically). Robot chicken used to be the weirdest show on TV, now theres shows like 'super jail' and "tim and eric awesome show: great job good show!"

    SCHEDULES:
    I personally think Adult swim does the best programming because they never get into a routine of "every thursday at 8 is _____" and so they really keep it fresh. one week there will be 2 hours of family guy in a row 3 nights in a row, the next week it might be futurama.

    the problem with doing that, is that most of america is full of lazy deadbeats who like having the same fucking show on at the same time every week.

    WRITING:
    the writing for TV is so poor because they make each member of their writing staff pump out 40 pages a week (stat check on that, please). its no wonder they all become robotic and write crap. most movies are written with far more care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Then what you have to do is prove that to them, offer up alternatives, and explain how it would be better for them. It likely won't be easy, though. They're likely entrenched in their view, and why not? It's been working out great so far.
    As see this is where you are wrong good sir. They HAVEN'T been able to successfully market to the college age group, I've taken a few advertising courses and the industry is just really damn confused on what 18-25 year college students WATCH, they really have no idea.

    well other than shit on comedy central.

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    great post babylon...really good points.
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