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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    It's a relationship held down by a string. What I learned is that it is usually better in the long run to cut the string rather than try to balance on it.

    Apathy my dear friend. That is the answer.

    If he yells at you, ignore him.
    If he demands something unreasonable, tell him why it's unreasonable and ignore the request.

    If he stops talking to you, good. Less trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
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    I find it endlessly fascinating that you think this entire thread is all about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Iíd suggest you bite the bullet and submit to your dadís requests with dignity. You can still be yourself in a deep way even if you compromise on little things. It might suck, but itís part of cohabitation, and you do it because it pays off in the end: a satisfying relationship with your father, something lots of people donít have. I would also suggest you consider that your type is a rough classification of your personality, not something that cannot be added to or changed or balanced. Next time you talk to your dad, try talking to him like an adult rather than ďhis kidĒ and see how he responds. I think itíll help you earn some of the respect and recognition youíre looking for deep down.

    Good luck!
    Basically good advise. They tend to be conservative. They respect hard work, tradition, loyalty, respect, discipline. They need to (see) things happening. I've had trouble with an ESTJ in the past. You can't make them understand with NT reasoning. They won't get it and will see it as insubordination.

    If you want to get along with your Dad will have to take the high road and make an effort to appeal to his nature. It's unlikely he will see things from your perspective. Do you live with your parents? If so, are you old enough to move away? Your relationship should improve if you are not living under the same roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInNerSpace View Post
    Basically good advise. They tend to be conservative. They respect hard work, tradition, loyalty, respect, discipline. They need to (see) things happening. I've had trouble with an ESTJ in the past. You can't make them understand with NT reasoning. They won't get it and will see it as insubordination.

    If you want to get along with your Dad will have to take the high road and make an effort to appeal to his nature. It's unlikely he will see things from your perspective. Do you live with your parents? If so, are you old enough to move away? Your relationship should improve if you are not living under the same roof.
    Yeah i live with him but i'm leaving in summer so i'm trying to find a way to leave on god terms with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMurder View Post
    I find it endlessly fascinating that you think this entire thread is all about you.
    I'm the prime example of an egoist, what did you expect? I'd just to submit and withdrew my presence? How about no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    It's a relationship held down by a string. What I learned is that it is usually better in the long run to cut the string rather than try to balance on it.

    Apathy my dear friend. That is the answer.

    If he yells at you, ignore him.
    If he demands something unreasonable, tell him why it's unreasonable and ignore the request.

    If he stops talking to you, good. Less trouble.
    This pretty much explains how I've dealt with my dad (ESTP, type 8 so practically ESTJ) up until now. Don't ever try to reason with them, just ignore them and walk away. Spend your energy on people who appreciate you for who you are, not someone who arm-twists you into being someone else. There's no reason to explode and completely break it off with him when you can ignore him and still have a place to live.
    "Whoever stands on the highest mountains laughs at all tragic plays and tragic seriousness." ~Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    I'm the prime example of an egoist, what did you expect? I'd just to submit and withdrew my presence? How about no.
    How about please.

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