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    Quote Originally Posted by InaF3157 View Post
    No, it is not honorable. Your brother's a shithead, but you knew that. Certainly it wasn't a small fortune, though. Consider it a lesson learned and have nothing to do with him involving money.
    Yeah, with him everyone says they feel kinda like they're making a pact with the devil - you can rely on him to fulfill his part of the bargain, but he'll be as creative about it as possible whilst adhering to the 'letter' of it so you come off the worse but can't get at him for it :steam:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    I just mean blame is a difficult thing. You are seeing from your perspective. Your brother may have an equally valid yet completely different perspective, ergo it is rather pointless to speculate as we have trouble seeing ourselves at a remove.
    well yeah duh again, that's why I want to discuss it with unbiased parties!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Wth! You should confront him and ask why he didn't think of phoning you or your mother at the time of the automatic renewal.

    As for family business I disagree with Synarch. If I can't trust my core family with money then I can't trust banks either. That's how I see things though and I don't know how close you are with your brother.
    Yeah, that's a point...


    And what did you say about ENFP again?
    Ha, just this specific one
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    Yeah, with him everyone says they feel kinda like they're making a pact with the devil - you can rely on him to fulfill his part of the bargain, but he'll be as creative about it as possible whilst adhering to the 'letter' of it so you come off the worse but can't get at him for it :steam:
    Is he in the legal profession?
    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    well yeah duh again, that's why I want to discuss it with unbiased parties!
    Yup, moral relativism run amok is tiresome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    well yeah duh again, that's why I want to discuss it with unbiased parties!
    Yes, but all we can do is weigh in on your partial reportage of events. See? I mean what you want to hear is that you are right and your brother is wrong, right? Done! Your brother sucks!

    (Is he also ENTP?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Yes, but all we can do is weigh in on your partial reportage of events. See? I mean what you want to hear is that you are right and your brother is wrong, right? Done! Your brother sucks!

    (Is he also ENTP?)
    Hey, don't be telling me what I think dude! No, of course whilst it doesn't HURT for me to be agreed with, that doesn't mean it's what I WANT. If I wanted that, I'd talk to one of the many people who he's conned before and who hate him. There's ample bitching opportunity there, but I chose to give a fact based report to uninvolved parties. I hope you can see that's me trying to be objective!

    No, he's an ENFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Yes, but all we can do is weigh in on your partial reportage of events. See? I mean what you want to hear is that you are right and your brother is wrong, right? Done! Your brother sucks!

    (Is he also ENTP?)
    So you don't think his brother had a moral obligation to inform Substitute and his mom when the bill arrived? If it was a stranger or acquaintance it would be one thing but...

    I'd be happy with a "I forgot" response but denying all responsibility seems kinda cheap. Seeing as how he's my brother after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    So you don't think his brother had a moral obligation to inform Substitute and his mom when the bill arrived? If it was a stranger or acquaintance it would be one thing but...

    I'd be happy with a "I forgot" response but denying all responsibility seems kinda cheap. Specially if it were my brother.
    Just don't get him a Christmas / Birthday gift and call it a day. How much money are we talking here? A domain name is less than ten bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Just don't get him a Christmas / Birthday gift and call it a day. How much money are we talking here? A domain name is less than ten bucks.
    Matter of principle from where I'm standing. Nothing to do with practicality.

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    Synarch I already answered that it's about 65 dollars. It wasn't just the domain name, I don't know all the technical terms but it had a load of extras on it. And 65 bucks is a lot when you're broke and have kids to feed.

    And Sytpg that's what I'm trying to get at, I sense there's a principle here that's been violated, but I'm not much good with that sorta thing cos it tends to imply values, and since I'm totally out of touch with mine if I even have any, I can't really put my finger on it! lol The fact that usually when I feel abused in any way like that, I usually dismiss it as emotional nonsense has, I think, led to me accepting being swindled in the past when perhaps I should've fought it... I'm just so crap at figuring out who's in the right and wrong in a situation that I daren't go in guns blazing unless I feel sure I'm justified in doing so. And since I never feel in touch with my values or emotions enough to really know whether any of my feelings are justified... ugh!!

    That's how I tend to feel a lot with him when he does this sort of thing - that even a lame apology would be less offensive than just refusing to admit any fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Matter of principle from where I'm standing. Nothing to do with practicality.
    Principle often masks hurt feelings. People feel less justified talking about matters of feeling, whereas matters of principle are considered more lofty subjects of conversation.

    This is why people get things in writing! It's like the game of telephone. I think I am saying one thing and you think you are hearing another. Language is so limited. Spell out the expectations and be very clear. Sounds like this situation was not very clear from the get go. Your brother may be an ass, but it is certainly not clear to me without making some assumptions.
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