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    Default Who else has a horrible time in school?

    Studying engineering at an Ivy league institution in the states, I'm having an increasingly hard time doing well. My grades are poor and I'm tittering between a B- and a C+ average which is in no way reflective of my abilities. It's to the point now that I'm worried I won't be able to get a job when I graduate. While my friends adjust well to the test based grading system my university uses, I can't seem to be consistent. I'll do well on the preliminary examinations and bomb the final exam and get a C in the class. It's quite depressing.

    Any other NTs or specifically INTPs have difficulty with testing and/or just doing well as a student in higher level education?

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    I agree with you. I don't get As all across the board, the only classes that I do are the ones in which there is significant freedom given to the student when it comes to preparing themselves for tests, or how lab work was done. I nearly failed orgo because I never followed the procedures, but made shortcuts and adjustments to make everything go faster.

    Any type of weekly homework, organizational requirements, pre-lab work [preliminary write ups, etc] really hurt me because I find it unimportant and difficult to follow through on something so pointless and wasteful.



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    Well, I'm only in a community college (though one of the best in the nation), and in a calculus class that is arguably more difficult than any UC class. The work load we get from this particular teacher is quite daunting at times, and not helped by the fact that I had to learn everything after Geometry on my own. The problem I had with the class (likely causing me to get a D...) was mainly time and energy constraints. Nothing is impossible for me to understand, it just took more time than I had to work through the work load and learn everything I needed for the tests. Often I would end up not fully learning what I needed until a week AFTER the tests, which did not help me in the least.

    I know for most INTP's, time management is likely to be one of our biggest hurdles. You really have to learn how to manage your time effectively in college, or you will suffer along with your grades. I've arguably had to make a lot of social sacrifices this past semester just to be able to keep up with my work :/ . Glad I'm an I and not an E, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonJT View Post
    Studying engineering at an Ivy league institution in the states, I'm having an increasingly hard time doing well. My grades are poor and I'm tittering between a B- and a C+ average which is in no way reflective of my abilities. It's to the point now that I'm worried I won't be able to get a job when I graduate. While my friends adjust well to the test based grading system my university uses, I can't seem to be consistent. I'll do well on the preliminary examinations and bomb the final exam and get a C in the class. It's quite depressing.

    Any other NTs or specifically INTPs have difficulty with testing and/or just doing well as a student in higher level education?
    When I first went to university (and not even at an Ivy league, congrats on that bit), I thought that I wanted to do computer science because it related to my interest (at the time) in video game creation. That lasted all of one semester, though, because I would bomb the end-of-term tests as well. I'd do fine on projects, quizzes, homework...but the cumulative tests just seemed to do me in most of the time. I'd usually end up with something like a B, when the majority of my work was A quality.

    I really did not like classes that were all testing. So I quickly switched to humanities courses, where term research papers reign supreme...and which I could ace much better than tests. I haven't looked back.

    Since I know that that's not generally a palatable option to most NTs, I don't really know what kind of advice to give you. Perhaps you should get a test-taking tutor?
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    In high school, I was an A student. In college/university, I was an A student. But then I started getting bored, realized I had more fun and learned more just studying independently, and I dropped out.

    I wish I had more of an attention span for things that don't interest me. But the moment I get bored with anything, life starts to feel like pulling a ship over a mountain.

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    I do everything in my power to get that A, including shirking other areas of my life, and get pissed off and self-critical when I don't get it.

    So.. no, I don't have problems in school..

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    Time management is the biggest issue for me. And as other people have said the only class I succeed in is the one where I am allowed significant freedom.

    I'm not saying I'm doomed. I have almost 3 years FSAE experience and internship experience with a consulting firm specializing in power production. God willing, I COULD get a job with them but I'm really just worried that I won't have any options when I graduate. Hopefully I can get into the grad school AND do earn a good GPA in engineering management and aerospace. If all goes well, I won't have to put my poor undergrad GPA on my resume. It's just extremely frustrating to work hard and yet receive the same grades as those who are not smart enough to be where I am.

    Ugh...........

    As for tutors, I'd be really surprised if my school has any tutors specializing in test taking. Everyone just seems to think studying harder will solve all problems. As it is, I've become aloof and consumed by my work. Eh, hopefully someone will take pity on me and give me a job.

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    My average in this semester is 93%. I'm pretty happy about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    My average in this semester is 93%. I'm pretty happy about that.
    Let me guess, not in engineering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonJT View Post
    Let me guess, not in engineering?
    Nope, and it's not in tests.

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