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[ENTP] Do you know jealousy?

EcK

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^^ oh just to clarify...i'm not mad. i was throwin a bit of attitude because disregard kinda said the people who said they didn't were full of it...and i gotta defend peoples rights to feel however they feel...it's just an incredibly annoying habit i have...i don't personally care one way or another. :D

hug:hug:
 

Lady_X

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Moiety

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yeah it's alright we understand, one can see something he wants neutraly without puting any emotion into it.
I kind of do that, things are just elements I connect with concepts and so on, but why obsess about it. It serves no purpose what so ever.

But I do get not everybody thinks like me, so I'm not saying it's wrong.
For example I am utterly unable to keep an ordered room\desk, to study for that exam, that's now in 5hours (maths).
But it's all part of who I am, and i'm sure a more orderly mind couldn't come up with new ideas and so on all the time , "in the purest entp fashion."

I don't think it's wrong either. But it's one of the "qualities" I'm most proud in myself, I must say :)
 

EcK

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Alright, let's just group hug and make out together. This 'd settle the question once and for all!
 

EcK

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I don't think it's wrong either. But it's one of the "qualities" I'm most proud in myself, I must say
I can only agree on my side.

Ur so much like an entp, only, with a heart:shock:
I'm tempted to poke into ur brain to see how it all works ?

aw, let's be buddies!
 
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Wow.. I'm glad for the Feelers' perspective on this thread!

Me? I do get envious on occasion, just like I sometimes get angry or sad. Like any negative emotion, I accept it, let it pass, try to figure out what it signaled, and move to correct it.

In the case of envy, it might mean that I desire to acquire a skill that someone else has. I then let the emotion go, then I try to accept or resolve the situation. I'll ask the person for pointers, do research, practice, and so on. The emotion itself doesn't last for very long (less than a minute, tops), but it signaled yet another drive in me.

To me, emotions are just that.. signals. Just like physical pain is a signal. Some people might feel certain emotions strongly, some people not at all. Although, my ENFJ friend keeps telling me to stop suppressing emotions.. ones that I don't actually feel..
 

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I can only agree on my side.


Ur so much like an entp, only, with a heart:shock:
I'm tempted to poke into ur brain to see how it all works ?

aw, let's be buddies!

haha...that's funny...and yeah...i think so too! really similar! it seems. :)
 

surgery

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Seems like a waste of energy. Maybe it motivates some people, but I can see it holding others back as well.

You're right, I think. Envy and jealousy can be largely debilatating when a person focuses on what he or she lacks so much that s/he falls into self-pity.

I often compare myself to others, which often leads to long bouts of feelings of worthlessness and shame. So, in a sense, I feel jealousy because that other person's success is a direct assailant on my own self-worth. At that point, I begin to envy specific attributes of a person (looks, certain personality traits, etc.)

I guess these feelings largely stem from a desire to be as important desirable, accepted by other (extraverted feeling, perhaps.) In my opinion, as long someone makes the decision to take practical steps to achieving what s/he thinks is missing, envy and jealousy can be dealt with without letting them take too much toll on a person's self-esteem.
 

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<strikethrough>Jealousy/envy was probably one of the earliest strong emotions I had as a child.

My parents used manipulative preferential treatment of a sibling (and none too subtly either. I remember my Dad saying things like 'Now I don't love you. I'll love (insert name of random kid friend)', and I would be mutely outraged because I didn't know how to put anything in words) as punishment.

Plus I always had difficulty tattling on my brother (I would sometimes take the fall for him because I could imagine hating being in his shoes), while he hardly resisted a chance.

Now I still get jealous as a reflex when I feel overlooked or ignored, but I normally get over it by exerting some Te, and feeling some Fi inner happiness.

More insidiously, I have a very intense feeling of guilt whenever I've been joking around with a male friend or something, and move away, and then realise this INTJ I have a thing with was near. I don't know if it's because I'm hyper-vigilant about inciting jealousy, or that I sub-consciously try to induce jealousy, and then feel guilty about my motives. I don't know if joking around with someone else normally causes jealousy but I don't seem to have that relaxed mutual entertaining thing going on with the INTJ (with us it's more like mutual snarky comments), so yeah.</strikethrough>

*oops, now i realise this is in the NT rationale.
and i'm not an NT.shall take it out and post it on the other page i was looking at.
 

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I would think it's healthier to admit to jealousy and be comfortable with experiencing that emotion on occasion than to suppress the acknowledgment of our jealousy and to force a self-assured smile like everyone else and say "I'm not ever a jealous person in my romantic relationships, because I'm above that."

Take that Dr. Phil shit elsewhere.

:wubbie:
 

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I communicate whatever hurts me to those who matter most to me, so I don't hold grudges.

If I don't like someone or something, I won't pretend to, and at times, I will let them know to their face, because that's how I keep it real. In away, it's a breath of fresh air for me.

In terms of jealousy, I rarely get jealous. I'll only get jealous say.. over trivial matters, like if I'm watching the foodnetwork and I see Rachel Ray traveling and eating, I'll be like "mother..." It's mostly for jokes/superficiality, because I get hungry watching them enjoy their meals at a nice hotspot while I'm in bed drooling.. =)

If someone deliberately tries to provoke action to make me upset, I let them know/or ignore them, afterwards, once we get matters settled. I still respect them. Just don't see any point in trying to be all lovey dovey.
 

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I've never really got jealous over peoples qualities only their material goods like i'm jealous that all my mates have xbox 360 as i really want one but i'm not jealous that my two best mates are more athletic and better with girls than me (there both SPs).

There is one quality i envy though. Those people who are able to always smile. I don't just mean the average ExFP i man the really amazing ones who are always laughing and smiling and having fun; i've only met one or two that great. I wouldn't change the way i am to be like them because i am perfectly happy with myself and i would lose alot to be like that but i would like to be more like that which i think i could if i developed my Ne more.
 

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I can get horribly jelous, but usually in an insecure relationship. I often, and strangely enough have bright woemn getting very jelous of me, I think it's because I'm strong minded and not massively insecure, but I don't know for sure. Sometimes its other people who point it out to me that xyz person is jelous as hell of me.

It's a shame because most of these women I like to begin with, but I end up giving them the wide steer because I don't like it

Lis
 
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