User Tag List

First 123 Last

Results 11 to 20 of 28

  1. #11
    Member booya moon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    43

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    ENTPs hardly socialize or have as many people they regularly associate with (friends) as most other extroverts. And it's common for ENTPs to type as INTP and not realize it until they learn the difference via comparison of those of both types.

    The E of the ENTP is more related to reciprocity than socialization. To compare, and consider the degree, not the absoluteness: The ENTP has a drive to affect people and the outside world in some way, even if indirectly, whereas the INTP has a drive to excel on his own terms, however nonsensical to anyone else the terms are.
    I totally agree. I have many "friends", but there is only a small number of them, that I really enjoy being with. When I was younger, I only hung out with people, whose company I found enjoyable. I was told at that time, that people perceive me as distant and arrogant. That is why I now make an conscious effort to associate to people I don`t find so interesting. It is more socially acceptable.

  2. #12
    Senior Member tinkerbell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    3,487

    Default

    Hi

    I think the term extrovert is misunderstood, it doens't make you a social butterfly, its simply you perefer to share ideas out lound in order to help you shape them.

    Most ENTP's I know are fairly shy and can be quite introspective, it's almost like they have learned to be sociable to cover that shyness - ie the go to the extremes of outthere to cover a rather shy inward character.

    They need the sharing of ideas so learn to communicate externaly.

    Just a thought

    Lis

  3. #13
    Buddhist Misanthrope Samvega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Posts
    1,068

    Default

    Excellent tread! I am 80 plus percent on my E and at the same time I really like to be left alone. I have assumed it's because I am an only child though this thread makes me question that. I'm extremely social and will often start making large groups of people laugh in stores as I make fun of myself or joke about something. I can walk into a room of 20 people I've never met and tell a joke to them all without any reservation.

    I tend to have a LARGE group of people accessible to me when I need a people fix but when I'm done I'm done. There are very few I'm close enough to that I always enjoy being with or talking to them.

    The only exception to this is if I'm in a relationship. I tend to always enjoy being with the person I'm dating but that may have a lot to do with how selective I am in picking somebody to date.

    I will say working for myself I do have times that it's dawned on me I haven't left my property (2 plus acres, hard to get bored when I have computers and welders and quads and so many toys) in a week or gone out with people in a month. I do need that time very much I just have to make myself take it.

  4. #14
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mort Belfry View Post
    We're used to definitions of extraversion that describe social, bubbly people. In fact it makes it very easy when we come across gregarious and loud people to type them as Es. But the functions of Ne and Ti aren't particularly inviting to other people.

    Though sometimes given to INTPs, the quintessential image of an ENTP is the mad, obsessive professor. This makes them sound like loners, and in fiction at least it seems to be played out. Dr Emmet L. Brown from the Back to the Future trilogy lives a seemingly solitary existence. Captain Jack Sparrow, as expressive as he is, has no true friends and shares a large portion of his adventures by himself.
    This post is very insightful. There is nothing more lonely than both needing and feeling alienated from other people. Though, this can be a very liberating solitude it leads to a certain ambivalence and detachment. A hunger for more and better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    The E of the ENTP is more related to reciprocity than socialization. To compare, and consider the degree, not the absoluteness: The ENTP has a drive to affect people and the outside world in some way, even if indirectly, whereas the INTP has a drive to excel on his own terms, however nonsensical to anyone else the terms are.
    I relate to this better than the normal definition for extraversion. So, ENTP are outwardly oriented, not necessarily people junkies? In my life, I have always felt the need to be impactful in some sense. Either with individual people or through what I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by booya moon View Post
    I totally agree. I have many "friends", but there is only a small number of them, that I really enjoy being with. When I was younger, I only hung out with people, whose company I found enjoyable. I was told at that time, that people perceive me as distant and arrogant. That is why I now make an conscious effort to associate to people I don`t find so interesting. It is more socially acceptable.
    Working on engaging socially is worthwhile. I think it also helps to try to not overthink. So many times being around others triggers this self-appraisal that can be negative.

    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    Most ENTP's I know are fairly shy and can be quite introspective, it's almost like they have learned to be sociable to cover that shyness - ie the go to the extremes of outthere to cover a rather shy inward character.

    They need the sharing of ideas so learn to communicate externaly.
    This is good also. Also, I think sometimes when you feel different from others you have a choice: either to assassinate the importance of other people and isolate yourself mentally or to try to adapt yourself to that basic aspect of the world, that human interaction is basic requirement for life. I think because so much of my early life was spent in environments where it would be hard for anyone to feel entirely comfortable (moving frequently or belonging to evangelical churches) that I learned early on to interface with people in the way that was most frictionless and yet to always, always keep my own counsel. I would be curious if other ENTP's were in similar circumstances.

    Quote Originally Posted by TucsonENTP View Post
    I'm extremely social and will often start making large groups of people laugh in stores as I make fun of myself or joke about something. I can walk into a room of 20 people I've never met and tell a joke to them all without any reservation.

    I tend to have a LARGE group of people accessible to me when I need a people fix but when I'm done I'm done. There are very few I'm close enough to that I always enjoy being with or talking to them.

    The only exception to this is if I'm in a relationship. I tend to always enjoy being with the person I'm dating but that may have a lot to do with how selective I am in picking somebody to date.

    I will say working for myself I do have times that it's dawned on me I haven't left my property (2 plus acres, hard to get bored when I have computers and welders and quads and so many toys) in a week or gone out with people in a month. I do need that time very much I just have to make myself take it.
    I relate to everything you just said and have actually been looking around for land, as well, though I cannot yet commit to settling down where I am now. It is also very important to me to be with someone who is an equal partner exactly for the reason that it is difficult to get close with people and when I find someone I 'click' with, I want to share everything with them.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

  5. #15
    Buddhist Misanthrope Samvega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Posts
    1,068

    Default

    Synarch maybe you and I would be a good match! Are you open to gender reassignment surgery? Because I may be will to overlook the fact that you were born a man if you can make yourself look enough like a woman.

    I relate to everything you just said and have actually been looking around for land, as well, though I cannot yet commit to settling down where I am now.
    Good time to buy, what about finding something that you can later use as a rental? I guess that depends on where you live. I have two properties both with two houses on them so they positive cash flow every month. Well, if I had the motivation to find renters. God I hate that P sometimes!

  6. #16
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TucsonENTP View Post
    Synarch maybe you and I would be a good match! Are you open to gender reassignment surgery? Because I may be will to overlook the fact that you were born a man if you can make yourself look enough like a woman.

    Good time to buy, what about finding something that you can later use as a rental? I guess that depends on where you live. I have two properties both with two houses on them so they positive cash flow every month. Well, if I had the motivation to find renters. God I hate that P sometimes!
    It's tempting. But, I am sort of attached to my penis.

    ...

    I am actually tempted to own rental property, but I would be a horrible landlord and would have to hire a property management company to sort the details.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

  7. #17
    Buddhist Misanthrope Samvega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Posts
    1,068

    Default

    But, I am sort of attached to my penis.
    I think technically it's attached to you though I can see how you're wording works equally well.

  8. #18
    Revelation Lauren Ashley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    EII
    Posts
    3,067

    Default

    What a coincidence my ENTP friend was just complaining to me today again about not having any friends because she alienates people by being "cwazzyy." Especially no female friends. Well she says things like "You have a cute butt! Can I pinch it?" within 20 minutes of meeting someone, so...

  9. #19
    Once Was Synarch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    8,470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    What a coincidence my ENTP friend was just complaining to me today again about not having any friends because she alienates people by being "cwazzyy." Especially no female friends. Well she says things like "You have a cute butt! Can I pinch it?" within 20 minutes of meeting someone, so...
    Yeah, I probably do the male equivalent of whatever that is. I do also alienate people by being too intense. For example, I went out with some friends to a bar last night and played air hockey and decided to "flame on" and not hold back. I won about seven games in a row, but then no one wanted to play me after that with all the pucks and "Fucks!" flying.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

  10. #20
    Buddhist Misanthrope Samvega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Posts
    1,068

    Default

    Yeah, I probably do the male equivalent of whatever that is. I do also alienate people by being too intense. For example, I went out with some friends to a bar last night and played air hockey and decided to "flame on" and not hold back. I won about seven games in a row, but then no one wanted to play me after that with all the pucks and "Fucks!" flying.
    Totally know what you're both saying. I found out after meeting somebody new that when I was gone he said:

    "God it's like the guy walked in, shoved his rooster (word has been changed there) in my mouth and every time I tried to talk he shoved it further down my throat"

    I have worked hard at avoiding the shock and aww meetings but I still sorta feel like I would rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not.

Similar Threads

  1. [ENTP] ENTP's and Ethics
    By WALMART in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 07-22-2012, 05:25 PM
  2. [ENTP] ENTP's and song/lyrics writing
    By INTPthinker in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-05-2012, 02:19 PM
  3. [ENTP] ENTPs, Cats and Gods
    By VYCanisMajoris in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 07-07-2010, 09:54 PM
  4. [ENTP] ENTP intensity and procastination
    By Qre:us in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 06-10-2009, 12:02 AM
  5. [ENTP] ENTP's and Racing Thoughts
    By Synarch in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 06-02-2009, 11:26 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO