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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    's not bullshitting! It's very true. That's what happens to people who get too skeptical...they rob themselves of self-confidence because they only see the problems with themselves, or with their competence.
    I said I agreed with it, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Skepticism is a great great asset in life. It only becomes a problem when it becomes a channel for hate, or when it gets turned on one's self and creates self-loathing. The difference in how you use skepticism is a matter of maturity, experience, and wisdom.
    My experience is that the young are rarely skeptical of the things which are fun but can harm them and entirely too skeptical of the things which are "good for them." Hah.

    What masquerades as strength is actually weakness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilen View Post
    I am too skeptic for my own good.
    I don't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilen View Post
    [I am too skeptic] for my own good.
    I'd agree. You're going to miss out on some knowledge because of the skepticism cynicism, actually.

    It's probably an INTP trait mostly.
    Skepticism is an INTP trait.
    Everything has to be shown or tested.

    Cynicism, I think, is an aggressive intellectual maneuver meant to strike back at people we're bitter towards, where we feel powerless to actually triumph over them or challenge them effectively. It essentially also assumes the position being disagreed with is corrupt or insincere, rather than just built on faulty assumptions... or even refusing to acknowledge the possibility that the CYNIC is the one at fault; that's a subjective call, not an objective one.

    I think anyone can be a cynic.
    I also think INTP's don't have to be cynics.
    Just skeptics.
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    I'm definitely skeptical. I think it's a good thing to be. The only problem is that when someone is super-nice to me, I tend to think they have an ulterior motive. But in most cases, they turn out to be just nice.

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    I'm a skeptic of everything including skepticism. But not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'd agree. You're going to miss out on some knowledge because of the skepticism cynicism, actually.



    Skepticism is an INTP trait.
    Everything has to be shown or tested.

    Cynicism, I think, is an aggressive intellectual maneuver meant to strike back at people we're bitter towards, where we feel powerless to actually triumph over them or challenge them effectively. It essentially also assumes the position being disagreed with is corrupt or insincere, rather than just built on faulty assumptions... or even refusing to acknowledge the possibility that the CYNIC is the one at fault; that's a subjective call, not an objective one.

    I think anyone can be a cynic.
    I also think INTP's don't have to be cynics.
    Just skeptics.
    You are assuming, because I am cynical -which is closer to be a knowledge, rather than just a doubt- but I'm not complaining about it specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonata View Post
    I'm definitely skeptical. I think it's a good thing to be. The only problem is that when someone is super-nice to me, I tend to think they have an ulterior motive. But in most cases, they turn out to be just nice.
    You probably haven't discovered the motive yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilen View Post
    for my own good.

    Ever felt that way ? It's probably an INTP trait mostly.
    No it's not.
    You're going to have to trust me on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by blanclait View Post
    well, i'm probably the same. i can't trust anyone 100%. There's no 100% or 0% in my dictionary.
    Well that's most probably because they're not words.
    Mine doesn't have them either.
    we fukin won boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'd agree. You're going to miss out on some knowledge because of the skepticism cynicism, actually.
    Your disapproval of cynicism is cynical.
    we fukin won boys

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