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    Default ENTJ greatest fears??? or is it just me???

    1) stayin alone
    2)feeling nothin to do
    3)not havin immediate deep thinker or believers of my ideas or similar once
    4)talkin to people abt generalized subjects for too long without turnin it into sumthin analytic
    5)temptin to argue for fun or WORST - having to hold my tongue
    6)wantin to break a rule for fun like an idiot. not for just breakin the rules sake but to c whether my intuition is correct.whether my prediction was correct regardin the reaction from the AFFECTED PARTIES.
    7)feelin no immediate problem to solve(i dont mean savin the world but i mean a nice little discussion)
    8)feelin that i dont have a plan, for a plans sake.to do sumthin.
    9)scared of turnin into an ENTP (dont get me wrong i think ENTPs ARE COOOOOOOOL but they are sed to be very INSENSITIVE. i dont want to be insensitive. i care abt my frends n other humans more than ENTPs)

    pls dont misunderstand me, i dont have anythin against ENTPs but i dont like the fact that they are a bit too insensitive.
    i do think they are COOOOOL.

    so guys what do you think is it just me or is it all ENTJs or am i being too sentimental?

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    you worry a lot about yourself

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    ^
    lol entp's

    Well #1, 2 is pretty consistent amongst extroverts, no?

    #3-7, i have the same, but i wouldn't call it fear. Its just our Ti getting bored.

    Personally i wouldn't mind turning into an INTJ.

    Up to 1~7 should be relatively consistent even amongst ENTPs, and 3-7 should be somewhat present in intp/intj

    Rest is just you. maybe, #8 i'm not an entj so i would'nt know that one for sure.

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    1) stayin alone
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    2)feeling nothin to do
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    3)not havin immediate deep thinker or believers of my ideas or similar once
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    4)talkin to people abt generalized subjects for too long without turnin it into sumthin analytic
    X
    5)temptin to argue for fun or WORST - having to hold my tongue
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    6)wantin to break a rule for fun like an idiot. not for just breakin the rules sake but to c whether my intuition is correct.whether my prediction was correct regardin the reaction from the AFFECTED PARTIES.
    -
    7)feelin no immediate problem to solve(i dont mean savin the world but i mean a nice little discussion)
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    8)feelin that i dont have a plan, for a plans sake.to do sumthin.
    X
    9)scared of turnin into an ENTP
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    Quote Originally Posted by markjENTJ View Post
    5)temptin to argue for fun or WORST - having to hold my tongue
    1. Some arguments are simply not worth it, no matter the entertainment value.

    -Arguing with a professor over topics that aren't arguable in the professors eyes (some philosophy, history, economics and obviously science professors) is not wise. All this does is put you on his shit list. There are those rare professors that will respect you for arguing, but you need to make sure they are one of those.

    -arguing over "traffic", or other "bar fight" level bullshit. Its just not worth it to do the whole roll the window down and yell shit. Its not worth it, because you just don't know the other person's stress level, religious views, desperation, or gun liscences mean for you.

    -arguing over bureaucratic bullshit. Im not saying that one shouldnt push for obvious changes in bureaucratic bullshit. There is the effective ENTJ path of gathering the resources to make things run better and then there is the ineffective way. Do not get into arguments for change, if you don't have the resources or the power to influence change. (scheming to get that power would be a better use of your time)

    2. Don't burn bridges that you don't have to. Example: I will not seek debate with Christians unless they publicly challenge me. However, the day their beliefs start to effect my life, I will seek out that argument. Until then, there is no reason to burn bridges by seeking argument.

    3. The best way to argue, besides obvious technical aspects of debate, is to keep your cool. You need to win over the neutrals. Neutrals tend to be scared of people who seem emotional or rampant idealists. One of the best examples of an arguer who keeps his cool, is Bill Maher. Even those who vehemently oppose him, have a hard time tearing him down, even when he's wrong, because of his demeanor. He is nearly impossible to fluster. Compare this to bill O'Rielly's emotional outbursts and you see why neutrals would generally see Maher as more rational no matter what they talk about.


    Probabaly more than you bargained for, but I felt like lecturing haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markjENTJ View Post
    1) stayin alone
    2)feeling nothin to do
    3)not havin immediate deep thinker or believers of my ideas or similar once
    4)talkin to people abt generalized subjects for too long without turnin it into sumthin analytic
    5)temptin to argue for fun or WORST - having to hold my tongue
    6)wantin to break a rule for fun like an idiot. not for just breakin the rules sake but to c whether my intuition is correct.whether my prediction was correct regardin the reaction from the AFFECTED PARTIES.
    7)feelin no immediate problem to solve(i dont mean savin the world but i mean a nice little discussion)
    8)feelin that i dont have a plan, for a plans sake.to do sumthin.
    9)scared of turnin into an ENTP (dont get me wrong i think ENTPs ARE COOOOOOOOL but they are sed to be very INSENSITIVE. i dont want to be insensitive. i care abt my frends n other humans more than ENTPs)
    1)-
    2)-
    3)+
    4)-
    5)+
    6)+
    7)+
    8)+
    9)-

    As a random INTP, this is what I get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markjENTJ View Post
    9)scared of turnin into an ENTP (dont get me wrong i think ENTPs ARE COOOOOOOOL but they are sed to be very INSENSITIVE. i dont want to be insensitive. i care abt my frends n other humans more than ENTPs)
    Lol is this a seriously one of your fears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markjENTJ View Post
    1) stayin alone
    2)feeling nothin to do
    3)not havin immediate deep thinker or believers of my ideas or similar once
    4)talkin to people abt generalized subjects for too long without turnin it into sumthin analytic
    5)temptin to argue for fun or WORST - having to hold my tongue
    6)wantin to break a rule for fun like an idiot. not for just breakin the rules sake but to c whether my intuition is correct.whether my prediction was correct regardin the reaction from the AFFECTED PARTIES.
    7)feelin no immediate problem to solve(i dont mean savin the world but i mean a nice little discussion)
    8)feelin that i dont have a plan, for a plans sake.to do sumthin.
    9)scared of turnin into an ENTP (dont get me wrong i think ENTPs ARE COOOOOOOOL but they are sed to be very INSENSITIVE. i dont want to be insensitive. i care abt my frends n other humans more than ENTPs)

    pls dont misunderstand me, i dont have anythin against ENTPs but i dont like the fact that they are a bit too insensitive.
    i do think they are COOOOOL.

    so guys what do you think is it just me or is it all ENTJs or am i being too sentimental?
    Apparently having dreadful spelling is not one of your biggest fears .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleCloud View Post
    Apparently having dreadful spelling is not one of your biggest fears .
    Hehe, I was just going to say that

    Mightier than the tread of marching armies is the power of an idea whose time has come

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    Apparently having dreadful spelling is not one of your biggest fears .
    HAHAHAHAHA

    Hmm... I would think that inefficiency is one ENTJ pet peeve? Not necessarily a 'fear' per se, but definitely something that gets their goat? (correct me if I'm wrong!)

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