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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    I'm aware of the "flying without a co-pilot" fact (I think the sex difference in incidence of colour-blindness is the most common and easy example to cite) and perhaps my wording of "more" was a little sloppy, but I fail to see how the very thing you're asserting isn't actually proving my point: women aren't gambling with as few chances as men are. The male's lack of an alternative option means he's playing with different odds. Women are far more likely to come out "safe" but men are far more likely to "go big or go home." If one assumes any correlation between genetics and intelligence (given how biological v. adopted children score relative to both sets of parents, it's likely there's a genetic component somewhere) they can also assume it will follow the same trend as stated above.

    All that aside, it's illogical to assume that when you're adding multiple variables (differences in genetic material, differences in hormones which is brain chemistry, sexual characteristics, overall metabolism and everything else) the single differentiator is purely sociological.

    I'm sure you've also learned that it's never just environment and it's never just genetics--there's always an interaction.
    Yes to most of the above, however, there is no data to suggest that intelligence is in any way related to genes on Y. Otherwise all women would be thick as sh*t (instead of just 90% of them). Like you said Y is short - it doesn't do much. And women are gonna get the most favourable genes on X because of the built in redundancy. Therefore, the argument about extremes of intelligence being related to sex chromosone diffs doesn't hold water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    NT women are somewhat more balanced.
    NT men tend to specialize more.
    This is what I believe to be true from personal experience.
    Let me revise your experience: I'm not in the least balanced. I hover at the extremes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    On the note of fucking and running not being a good choice in the olden days, it actually was the preferred one.
    Olden days? WTF?
    If there was no evolutionary advantage to male/female pair bonding, oxytocin/vasopressin wouldn't exist. Evolution doesn't fuck about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Let me revise your experience: I'm not in the least balanced. I hover at the extremes.

    Olden days? WTF?
    If there was no evolutionary advantage to male/female pair bonding, oxytocin/vasopressin wouldn't exist. Evolution doesn't fuck about.
    However, I do not know you.

    What's wrong with the word olden?
    Oh no, there is an advantage to it. It's not advantageous for the majority of males to be assholes simultaneously, males like these would be more likely to get diseases, have shittier lives by several levels, be lynched or killed by other means, a male like this would also have to be somewhat of a nomad, which is a fairly inefficient style of life.
    I'm just saying that when looking at this purely from the point of "offspring left" it has it's certain advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    However, I do not know you.

    What's wrong with the word olden?
    Oh no, there is an advantage to it. It's not advantageous for the majority of males to be assholes simultaneously, males like these would be more likely to get diseases, have shittier lives by several levels, be lynched or killed by other means, a male like this would also have to be somewhat of a nomad, which is a fairly inefficient style of life.
    I'm just saying that when looking at this purely from the point of "offspring left" it has it's certain advantages.
    You don't need to know me, you just need to believe me.

    Olden = arcane

    Different species have different breeding strategies. The more primitive life forms often produce a super-abundance of offspring with a low survival rate. For the higher ones (e.g. apes, elephants, whales) this is not an efficient strategy. We can't pump kids out at a rate of knots - it's a very biologically expensive thing to do. Therefore, we take better care of the the few offspring we produce. Biology 101.

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    Oh yes, I fully understand that it wouldn't be a smart choice if everyone did that. What I'm trying to say is that it's advantageous while the population of the Casanovas is quite low.

    I sill don't see how the word olden was misused.

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    I like "olden".
    Olden is a good word.
    At least it is, here in the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    Oh yes, I fully understand that it wouldn't be a smart choice if everyone did that. What I'm trying to say is that it's advantageous while the population of the Casanovas is quite low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darjur View Post
    I sill don't see how the word olden was misused.
    Olden is not specific enough for the context. It spans a vast period of human (pre)history.

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    Say Blue, maybe you just need to try your hand at a younger NT?

    Possibly an Introverted one whose a little more charming. I don't know where you would find someone like that though...
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Jack Flak is young and charming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    Say Blue, maybe you just need to try your hand at a younger NT?

    Possibly an Introverted one whose a little more charming. I don't know where you would find someone like that though...
    No, neither do I.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Jack Flak is young and charming.
    heeheehee! Watch it Mom! You'll be done for sexual harassment at this rate.

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