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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Your dad is an INTJ?
    I always try to take the most efficient route when doing errands.
    I try to do the least amount of driving necessary.
    Ti: "It doesn't matter if we get there on time. We're all gonna die someday, you know."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    I have found, generally, that life follows this rule:

    Something done poorly is better than nothing done well.

    Frustration is an emotional aspect, and unfortunately it tends to remain so. There are cases where Js can act way to fast, but almost all of their problems are resolved by more acting. A P wants to act all at once, from start to not-quite-the-end, but no one is able to plan sufficiently for that. A J is simply more adaptable in that situation, a strange reversal to the normal interpretation.

    Frustration and rejection is the natural reaction - it probably is for almost any P vs J... but I always keep that line above in my head. There is a balance, but wherever that balance is, in practical terms it is strongly on the J side.
    Seeing that you are an ISTP, I'd like to comment because my husband is an ISTP.
    One of the things I really admire about him is his way of being able to tackle a larger project in smaller pieces.
    After working for several hours. but not not completing the job he will say, "That's a step in the right direction."
    Since I tend to see the project as one whole thing - a usually overwhelming thing - I can get stuck in the "How in the world do I do this?" stage for a very long time.

    Taking note of your "not-quite-the-end" comment: My husband tends to be great at tackling the big stuff but doesn't appear to like to do the finishing details, i.e. he replaced the flooring in the kitchen over 5 years ago, and has yet to replace the moulding. That's just one example. There have been plenty.
    Actually, we make a good team because I would rather work on the finishing details than tackle the great big job.
    It usually works out well, but I don't know how to do moulding.

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    You know sometimes people just want to do things for no particular reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You know sometimes people just want to do things for no particular reason.
    I cannot relate to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You know sometimes people just want to do things for no particular reason.


    thats how i know if am stressed or not. When Im doing things that i have no reason for doing, i know that i must really not be that worried about _____ project. It can be a positive feedback mechanism of sorts.

    similarly if i find that im not having time for useless shit: it kicks me into military mode...as if it must be THAT bad. It puts me into this "mobolize mode" complete with timing my breaks with a kitchen twist around timer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Your dad is an INTJ?
    I always try to take the most efficient route when doing errands.
    I try to do the least amount of driving necessary.
    My dad is SiTe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldanen View Post
    My dad is SiTe.
    My ISTJ daughter has been pulling the same stuff with me.
    She won't tell me anything or explain anything to me.

    But my ISTJ mother always mapped out the most efficient way to do errands and made a list before she left the house.
    I think she still does.

    You dad may have an ulterior motive he is unwilling to share with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    My ISTJ daughter has been pulling the same stuff with me.
    She won't tell me anything or explain anything to me.

    But my ISTJ mother always mapped out the most efficient way to do errands and made a list before she left the house.
    I think she still does.

    You dad may have an ulterior motive he is unwilling to share with you.
    He really enjoys taking his sweet-ass time with whatever he does. But yeah, he is quite a reserved person and I as his son don't know much about his inner desires and attitudes. Of course, I've never really spoken to him that much either about my own. But I don't feel that we would really mesh in that way.

    "Let's go to Wal-Mart."
    Me, not wanting to have to go to such a big store when I was tired and wanted to go home: "Why not Food Lion?"
    "No, Wal-Mart!"

    Food Lion is of course a grocery store and Wal-Mart, here, is a supercenter.

    I sometimes try explaining my reasoning to him to get him to budge and do what I want, but he just acts like a freaking brick.

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    Haha I have an opt out clause in debates or arguments with my dad. I just use my Ti and English skills to be pedantic about English with him( english ain't his 1st language) I think its actually the cause of why I bullshit so much. I just go rapid fire though with my Ti and bask in the glory when i'm right and hes wrong.
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    Haha I have an opt out clause in debates or arguments with my dad. I just use my Ti and English skills to be pedantic about English with him( english ain't his 1st language) I think its actually the cause of why I bullshit so much. I just go rapid fire though with my Ti and bask in the glory when i'm right and hes wrong.
    That's usually what I do whenever I want to avoid talking with someone. Just fill them up with words until their head overloads, shuts down, or goes into another direction.

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