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    haha... I saw the abbreviated title "are you full of..." and was hoping it'd end with "shit*", so I could say "present!"

    one or two people have said I'm full of myself, but they tend to disappear as mere drips in the ocean of my adoring fans, whose adulation I thoroughly deserve, being God's gift to the world and everything.

    However, Firelie's comment has me thinking on an altogether unsavoury track... certain jokes spring to mind about brothels 'manned' by hollow dolls and customers claiming miracles happen when the dolls 'cry'... no no no no let's not go there!!

    *see what I did there?
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    I read "Are you full of... pippi" before

    Well, difficult question, am I full of myself ? I'd say, yes
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    Do you find certain things to be so simple and boring that you you put off doing them for a long time?
    In some cases. In others (housecleaning is a good example), I simply don't care, and don't have any particular incentive to do the boring stuff until it's unavoidable. I'm *very* oblivious to my surroundings, especially when it's someplace like home, where there's nothing new to observe.

    At work, this can be the case. I'm usually pretty good about forcing myself to do the things that *must* get done, even when there are more enjoyable tasks to be worked on, but I can't say that I enjoy it, or even that it doesn't turn me into a grumbling ball of frustration.

    Do you believe you are capable of doing much more than what you're current responsibilities are but do lack luster on the current "simple" responsibilities?
    Probably so - but I'm not ignorant of the fact that I got into my current position with pretty much no formal knowledge. It's been a lot of "learn as you go" - which I like, but I can't seriously pretend that I could jump into something much different and excel immediately (although the idea appeals to me). I definitely lack luster on some "simple" stuff. I actively avoid taking responsibility for "daily processing" tasks, and am pretty obvious about not making an effort to get more involved in that. Probably to my detriment, but I have no desire to embrace it.

    If you have them, do you believe you can overcome these tendencies? If so, how?
    I'm not sure I can "overcome" them - not for and by myself, at any rate. For example, I'd be perfectly willing to keep the house a bit cleaner if I lived with someone who considered it important/necessary (note that "a bit cleaner" doesn't equal "permanently spotless" ). Compromising with someone I care about - that I can do. But, especially at work (where I'm under no illusions that my supervisors care about what I like and don't personally), it seems unlikely. I think that the best I can do is try to do very well at the things I like, and hope that will turn into more opportunities for those things that don't drive me completely despondent-frustrated-crazy.

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    Yes, I'm full of myself, but that just means I'll never run out. And, yes, I avoid doing anything that I don't like doing unless other people are directly counting on me or it's really important. My girlfriend said that I have a sense of self-entitlement. I agreed with her and said that I'm entitled to live my life my own way, think however I want, do whatever I want, follow my dreams, and reject everything that doesn't matter to me. Everybody else is entitled to all of this stuff too, they just don't always make use of it. I believe that I can do anything. I'm extremely ambitious. What will I actually do? Now that's the complicated part. Most small and necessary steps demotivate me, but I know I could overcome that.
    "When a resolute young fellow steps up the great bully, the world, and takes him boldly by the beard, he is often surprised to find that it comes off in his hand, and that it was only tied on to scare away the timid adventurers." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    So what are some ways you make things interesting?

    The usual suggestion of turning it into a game isn't particularly effective because the only reason I like games is for the "puzzle" aspect of them, I get very little motivation from "winning." I also hate time-pressure, so trying to see how fast I can do it is actually counter-productive. Figuring out how to automate it, however, is fun, but not always practical.







    There are somethings that are mundane but requires enough mental attention to do them--so I can't zone out. Dishes don't tend to be a problem, except when I am in a mode of not wanting to do anything at all.

    Things like reading through your mail for bills and financial info. to see if you missed anything (I toss out all the garbage, but still there is a lot of things that look like tax-info or bills) do require some focus.

    Tasks at work, that essentially involve reading a schematics and taking note of signals that need to be connected to corresponding places in another design, going through and adding up all the decoupling capacitance in a design, and other such things--not too bad in small doses, but sometimes, that is the only type of thing to do for months on end.
    Sad to say but for some reason, time constraints work for me. I think if I could get this done in X amount of time, I bet I could get it done faster. To me constantly assessing my progress alows me further knowledge as to what I am capable of. If it has taken me A time to do X but I could do X in B time, that leaves a fraction of A leftover for personal interest. Then I know that despite what I do in my fraction of A time I still have B to fall back on and for some reason, that is motivation alone.

    You could try various things for doing mundane tasks. Make up songs about the task then sing them to random strangers who have no idea what your talking about, works for me. Or just when you think you know all there is, look for 10 min extra in analytical dimentions as to what similarities can be compared. You can race yourself. You can try to make others do it. That always worked for me, but sometimes I have to go back and correct the work.

    Go from A to G. What do you enjoy, and how could that possibly tie in, then focus on what you can enjoy.

    I really dont know. I just do it.

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    Am I full of myself? Of course I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Do you find certain things to be so simple and boring that you you put off doing them for a long time?
    I put off a lot of things... like cleaning my home, ironing my work clothes ... etc mundane stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Do you believe you are capable of doing much more than what you're current responsibilities are but do lack luster on the current "simple" responsibilities?
    Yes and no. I am good at my current job, happy doing it, but dream of bigger things. I want get to a point where I am able to influence lives millions of people for a greater good. I want to work for the government in strategic financial planing. A simple tax consultant for now.

    I tell managers/co-workers not to give me useless/mundane work/issues as I will not do it. I do make typos in both technical reports and corporate tax forms but fortunately we have proof readers. In past jobs, I have messed up because I made a simple error in number but I blame the lack of any real system to catch errors.



    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    If you have them, do you believe you can overcome these tendencies? If so, how?
    No. My brain is wired for long term, broad thinking. I cannot be bother with the small things. Someone else can do them.

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    For the most part, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Do you find certain things to be so simple and boring that you you put off doing them for a long time?
    When it comes to mundane tasks in my everyday life, I usually end up zoning out and just letting muscle memory or inertia do the work for me. This works especially well with exercise, since I can either just get lost in my thoughts, read a book, or listen to an audiobook when I do it.

    That, or I try to automate the process or cut out as much of the "mundane-ness" as possible. That's usually in connection with mundane work-related tasks.. and it's something that I'm very, very good at doing.

    When all of this fails, I usually do have to force myself to do it.. or I just delegate it where I can

    Do you believe you are capable of doing much more than what you're current responsibilities are but do lack luster on the current "simple" responsibilities?
    Yes, but that's just because I feel that certain others would fare better with the simpler responsibilities than I do.. not that I feel that those responsibilities are "beneath me." If it requires a great degree of attention to detail or simple, repetitive tasks, then I know that I wouldn't be as effective at it as others.

    I don't feel that that's arrogance on my part, because I recognize that it's not my domain. By letting someone else take care of them when applicable, I might be helping them use their strengths too.

    Simply put, I tend to cut corners when others won't.. for good and for bad.

    If you have them, do you believe you can overcome these tendencies? If so, how?
    In conclusion, I try to overcome these tendencies by making mundane or simple tasks less mundane or simple, by playing to my own strengths. That's my way of dealing with them. If that way doesn't work, and if I have to deal with those tendencies directly, I know that I'll have an issue with them that I just have to force myself to deal with.

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    Yes.
    Yes.
    I'm not interested in changing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Do you find certain things to be so simple and boring that you put off doing them for a long time?
    Sure, I usually hope they'll do themselves or that I'll forget about them and no one will notice

    Do you believe you are capable of doing much more than what you're current responsibilities are but do lack luster on the current "simple" responsibilities?
    Sure but I usually make others do them for me.

    If you have them, do you believe you can overcome these tendencies? If so, how?
    Why? Stick to strengths I say. I look at it like this, something menial needs to be done that I don't want to do, if the cost for someone else to do it is less than I value my time than why would I do it? I'd rather concentrate on conceptual problems and have others with appropriate skills look at the detail.

    Example, I don't enjoy house cleaning but I canít stand living in a messy environment so I employ cleaners, in the scheme of things it costs next to nothing and walking into a freshly cleaned house inspires me to get productive in areas I'm passionate about, some consider that lazy, maybe, I prefer to think I'm aware of what I'm good at and what I'm motivated to do along with what I'm not.

    Do I think I'm full of myself for this, nope.

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