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    Feelin' FiNe speculative's Avatar
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    When you talk to a work colleague on the phone and draw them out while building consensus, then you realize that the main reason you fight with them in meetings is because of the setting with too many other people around...

    Also, I agree with holding back on comebacks, but my reason is a bit different I think mainly about trying to live up to my ideal self, a self that would not resort to such methods, and how low it makes me feel to fail at that goal, before I think of the other person's feelings...

    Two contradictory opinions? Only 2??
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    Quote Originally Posted by theplacesyoullgo View Post
    Heh! I didn't even mean so much retaining someone's attention, because I haven't had a problem with that as much as getting INFPs to commit to ANYTHING. They make you wait until the day (sometimes hours) before something to confirm any plans, which seriously inconveniences the other person. It drives me up a wall because they make me feel like I'm bugging them when asking "are you coming or not?" (and maybe I am... but I have a life outside waiting for you!) With that said, I totally love my time with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theplacesyoullgo View Post
    Heh! I didn't even mean so much retaining someone's attention, because I haven't had a problem with that as much as getting INFPs to commit to ANYTHING. They make you wait until the day (sometimes hours) before something to confirm any plans, which seriously inconveniences the other person. It drives me up a wall because they make me feel like I'm bugging them when asking "are you coming or not?" (and maybe I am... but I have a life outside waiting for you!) With that said, I totally love my time with them.
    This is so true. After I had managed to hurt an INTJ friend of mine I realized I needed to stop doing that. Now, I view confirming and sticking to plans as simply part of respecting someone's time. And if you disrespect someone's time, you disrespect the person.

    Doesn't mean that plans aren't mean to occasionally be changed last minute, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitzy View Post
    when they say your opinion doesnt count and brush you off
    That would only be INFP if said in jest. What causes them to say that to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    That would only be INFP if said in jest. What causes them to say that to you?
    Remember, 50% of what one says when joking is actually true

    I mean, I know I can be like that sometimes. People think I'm really flexible, but once I've made a decision, I'm one of the most stubborn people around. I don't know if that's a trait or a flaw. Guess it could be both, right?

    I'm flexible before the decision is made, and it takes a long time to get there. But once that anchor is down, it's not going anywhere. So I might jokingly say to someone something along the lines of "Your opinion doesn't matter", but I kind of mean it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    That would only be INFP if said in jest. What causes them to say that to you?

    by "your" i was referring to the infp
    She talks pretty but says mean things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitzy View Post
    by "your" i was referring to the infp
    So it's like a lack of confidence/assertiveness issue? The INFP won't share his opinion because he feels it doesn't count, and then brushes the person off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    So it's like a lack of confidence/assertiveness issue? The INFP won't share his opinion because he feels it doesn't count, and then brushes the person off?
    I think she meant that other people brush the INFP off.
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    Yep people have told me basically that my opinion didn't matter to them in a group situation and that I was just dead weight for them. Then shortly afterwards they find out what I was talking about was correct and they end up looking like idiots. It's both a curse and a blessing to be ahead of people a good amount of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    I think she meant that other people brush the INFP off.
    Now I see what she was saying.

    People are free to ignore my opinions at their own peril.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    I think she meant that other people brush the INFP off.
    They can do. They learn.
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