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    eh i dunno. either way, i'm not gonna be convinced that i'm not smart . honestly, i think a longing to be intelligent does help with the pursuit of intelligence. there's a reason NF's are such jack of all traits. our confidence level be it from romaticised reasons or not, help us with the learning curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I've read that the most creative people tend to have IQs around 110.
    I read the most creative people are IQ'd in their 120s-130s and it stops around there (the increasing level of creativity as IQ also increases). But creative doesn't just mean good at fine arts of course... basically anyone who can really think outside of the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    School, most of the time, only emphasizes Si and Te.
    Eh, more like Ni and Te. School's all about finding the deeper meaning in subjects, not referencing your experience with them. The use of examples, associated with S, is secondary.

    And as for this topic, I dunno what I value as being a measure of intelligence. It could be how others perceive me, my grades, my ability to be responsible (especially with money), or something else. I'll have to think about this and get back to you.
    "... you think deeply about stuff [that] nobody cares about and hardly anybody can understand you." ~ Peguy talking about Ni users. So true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1207 View Post
    Eh, more like Ni and Te. School's all about finding the deeper meaning in subjects, not referencing your experience with them. The use of examples, associated with S, is secondary.
    I really like this post...but Ill just add this clarifier of my own:

    k-12...............................Si/Te "show your work"
    college and beyond............Ni/Te "I dont care, just get it right"

    I have no doubt that when Im doing well in school, its usually because im making better use of Te. I doubt that i'm pairing it with Si though, because i almost NEVER use rote memorization! I have definitely done better in college. Here, no body cares about Si. I can pull the answer out of my ass (Ni) and nobody calls me on it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon Candle View Post
    k-12...............................Si/Te "show your work"
    college and beyond............Ni/Te "I dont care, just get it right"
    It is ironical that when you get to do actual work, it goes back to Si/Te

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    I approve of this tread. Incredibly insightful OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    More like someone who has a jacked up Ne, in my opinion.
    I jacked up my Ne playing sports.
    Whoops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon Candle View Post
    I really like this post...but Ill just add this clarifier of my own:

    k-12...............................Si/Te "show your work"
    college and beyond............Ni/Te "I dont care, just get it right"

    I have no doubt that when Im doing well in school, its usually because im making better use of Te. I doubt that i'm pairing it with Si though, because i almost NEVER use rote memorization! I have definitely done better in college. Here, no body cares about Si. I can pull the answer out of my ass (Ni) and nobody calls me on it .
    This is kind of interesting, because as an INFJ Te and Si are my last functions (7th and 8th, respectively). Although being smart, a sort of bookworm, well-behaved and potentially a great student, I never did very good at school. I didn't find most of the stuff either interesting or meaningful (or the childish way of teaching). Then again, I got great grades in the subjects that I did find worthy.

    Then I got into an art college, got great grades most of the time and graduated with a scholarship and top of my class. What a change in school experiences!

    I'll tell you an experience from college. We were to read a handful of specified books and report objectively what they were about and then analyze them in a more subjective manner. Although the writers were professionals in their given field, I didn't kind of digest their wisdom. I felt they really didn't know what they were writing about. I wrote quite a long and insightful paper on that. I was afraid I would get failed. It was a huge risk, but it paid out... my teacher was absolutely thrilled. He said I was the only student who had ever questioned the content, and that my points were valid and showed that I really understood what's going on. I got the best mark for it.

    That's where I got to put my Ni to use. And that's where I shined.
    (Although getting my Ni onto paper was a lot of work)

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    I thought I was reasonably intelligent but then I joined INTPcentral and saw that there were people much much smarter than me out there. It was a "devestating to my ego" few months.

    But then in my community and social circle I'm pretty much as smart as it gets.
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    I'm probably the opposite.

    "If you're really a language arts person, why are you so good at math and science and history and suck so badly at reading comprehension and writing anything halfway coherent?"
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