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[MBTI General] Discerning Ni or Ne. Any explanations?

Bea Hale

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I've been studying this as a hobby for 2 years but I still don't know my type. Mainly, because I have no clear way of identifying whether I use Ni or Ne on a day-to-day basis.

How would Ni present itself throughout your day versus Ne?
 

Fidelia

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Ne hops around a lot more and is very good at finding unconventional functions for what it has to work with and so maximizes the use of people or materials to get great results. It's kind of improvisational and takes risks which may or may not turn out. Most ne users I know have a quick sense of humour and like puns. There's sort of a showy element to it that isn't afraid of the spotlight and while ne users get embarrassed, they still take chances. They can appear more human in front of people and relatable because they have learned to roll with looking foolish now and then, instead of focussing on prevention. Ne is curious, and many ne users are good sales people. As teachers, ne users are good at taking a student and optimizing the skills that are already in place to get the best results. Ne seems incredibly fun and clever to me. Ne looks for the novel and is easily bored. It goes less in depth.

Ni is more focused on envisioned possibilities, focussing on patterns and prediction and looking far down the road at implications. They are generally interested in how things interact togetherand in what could be rather than what is. Ni is much more idealistic, deliberate, and slow moving. Most Ni people aren't great at witty comebacks or reacting in the moment. It might take awhile to make decisions, not out of indecision but because they focus more on prevention and also need time for unconscious impressions to come into focus and create an overall picture. Ni teachers are good at helping facilitate students gaining a new vision of themselves and realizing it more than working with what's already there. Ni sees possibilities that others don't, but can be bad at selling people on them or being flexible and adapting their vision as needed. Ni can create more than Ne does. Ni mulches ma y ideas together into something unique and new, while ne gathers useful tidbits of info and can see when they could be used best or repurposed cleverly, but isn't making something new in the same way. Ni likes revisiting ideas and adding new layers to an old idea. It moves much slower than ne and sacrifices breadth of topics for depth in a few specialized areas.

Those are just my impressions. Both involve intuition, but directed in different ways. AJ Drenth has the best stuff on Ni and ne that I've read. Very accessible, yet detailed.
 

Jaguar

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Introverted iNtuition (Ni)

* Foreseeing
* Conceptualizing
* Understanding complex patterns
* Synthesizing and symbolizing
* Future

"This is how it will be."
"Aha, that's it!"

When Ni is a preferred process:

* You usually feel a certainty about what is going to happen, often without much detail and without being able to trace the actual data that would support the prediction.
* You focus on "what will be."
* You are energized by transformational visions of how someone can grow or of a completely original approach to get there.
* You are drawn to make those visions manifest.
* Frequently you experience flashes of insight that present themselves as very broad themes and complex whole patterns or systems of thought without being triggered by external events.
* Inner images come as a knowing that taps into universal symbols and with a certainty that they are true.

Introverted Intuiting is about Seeking Insights and Meanings

It focuses on:

* Identifying underlying meaning
* Identifying the inter-relatedness of data
* Synthesizing the information to reveal the "golden nuggets"

Its approach is to:

* Just state how or what action to take
* Rely on insight to develop vision for the future
* Envision without the need for tangible support

Introverted Intuiting's verbal communications are delivered in absolutes with a quest for meaning, i.e.:

* "Why?"
* Identifying the hidden meaning
* States what is going on behind the scenes

Introverted Intuiting's nonverbal cues are: reflective, serious, and confident; may appear complex, disengaged; could appear hesitant to respond.

To build rapport with introverted Intuiting, we can try:

* Providing a theoretical framework
* Using symbolic, conceptual language
* Relating concrete experience to theories
* Asking them to show you how they made their connections
* Asking for the long-term vision

Here are the sorts of complaints we make about introverted Intuiting when we feel uncomfortable. We say the person is:

* Serious and arrogant
* Complex and vague
* Theoretical or lacking specifics
* Inflexible and adversarial
* Out of touch with reality



Extraverted iNtuiting (Ne)

* Inferring
* Hypothesizing
* Seeing possibilities
* Wondering and brainstorming
* Emergent

"This is what might be."
"It could be this or this or this or . . ."

When Ne is a preferred process:

* Much reading "between the lines" occurs.
* Potential possibilities and meanings are "revealed" and must be explored.
* You feel fully engaged in emerging new approaches to doing things and are energized by discovering other perspectives,
in an ever-shifting succession of ideas or insights triggered by the particular situation, much like brainstorming.
* You frequently experience a flight of ideas that brings relevant pieces of information from one context into another.
* "What is" is not seen for what it is but for its relationship to other things.
* Everything is perceived in a context of a web of relationships. Nothing stands alone or is disconnected.

Extraverted Intuiting is about Seeking Patterns and Possibilities

It focuses on:

* Possibilities for the future
* Identifying connections and patterns within the data
* Connecting the current situation with other possible situations -- what could be

Its approach is to:

* Propose options
* Respond enthusiastically to the ideas of others
* Get excited about doing something differently

Extraverted Intuiting's verbal communications are delivered through possibilities, i.e.:

* "We could do this, or maybe that"
* Connects the dots without drawing the lines
* Rapid delivery following stream-of-consciousness thought

Extraverted Intuiting's nonverbal cues are: energetic, excited, enthusiastic; bounces easily from one topic to another; enjoys the rush of something new.

To build rapport with extraverted Intuiting, we can try:

* Presenting the big picture first
* Remaining open to new ideas
* Providing opportunities to brainstorm alternatives
* Allowing room to explore options without judgment
* Avoiding the need for accurate details

Here are the sorts of complaints we make about extraverted Intuiting when we feel uncomfortable. We say it's:

* Lacking in follow-through
* Random, flighty, and chaotic
* Too comfortable with inaccurate specifics and detail
* Disrespectful of traditional approaches
* Overly optimistic and enthusiastic
 

Froody Blue Gem

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Ne is a function that bounces ideas around, spawns new ideas. Is more kinetic and random. A non ne-user may be confused how a person got from point a to point b. With ni, an outsider may not know where the idea came from in the first place. It may be confusing but they stick with that idea for an elongated period of time. Both of the functions make connections and associations. Both ne and ni are in the world of the abstract but operate differently. Ni is more focussed on one idea, while can expand from that idea, it stays with the original concept and is more focussed on completion than ne is.

It is quite obsessive on that one thing in that manner. Ne may take an idea, not complete it, jump to another thing, but is completely okay with that. Incompletion drives a ni user mad. They seek out answers and are only at peace once complete.
 

Non_xsense

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Ne Is creativity , Ni is imagination.
The difference? Creavitity use imagination to make something in the real world , Isn't Te or something like that... Noo , Ne is Actually bringing a concept to the real world.

Almost the same as Te vs Ti , That is why Intp or Entp are alot more abstract than Intj and entj.

Actually im wrong , if your second funtion( or first) is a feeling type , ur conclusions are more abstract than a Nt type tho... Who cares about emotions anyway?.
Ti use abstract logic to use it , Te use a more physical logic.
 
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