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    Quote Originally Posted by tess2008 View Post
    there's this thing i manage to do, not sure how INFJ related it is...

    sometimes (not very often) there will be something that i just completely and utterly fail to understand. for example, a geography assignment about wastewater management systems, or something.. like that

    i will write out an essay without a clue what i'm talking about, and manage to make people think i understand EXACTLY what i'm talking about. this has happened a number of times

    on a particular essay i did the teacher wrote 'you have an excellent understanding of the topic, well done.'
    This relates well with my own experiences. Both at school and university, I could still get decent grades for topics I failed to understand properly. When this happened, I'd study the subject in depth before an assignment or exam was pending. Even though I was unable to "get" the subject with my preferred depth of understanding, I was able to absorb enough relevant information to convince the teachers that I had mastered the topic.

    I still felt like a bit of a fraud afterwards (INFJ high standards can be a real pain in the proverbial at times!). I used to possess a near photographic memory - for example, I could memorise a complicated diagram or formula and reproduce it exactly on an assignment or exam paper, without ever really knowing what it meant. After a few days, the memory faded away completely, so I had to memorise it a day or two before the due date.

    At the end of the day does it really matter to anyone but us? Most people would say that if we obtained a good grade in a subject than we have succeeded, regardless of our personal feelings of inadequacy. Many of the subjects I studied have never cropped up in my life again, and even if they do, I can simply refer back to a textbook (or, these days, the internet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollanaut View Post
    At the end of the day does it really matter to anyone but us? Most people would say that if we obtained a good grade in a subject than we have succeeded, regardless of our personal feelings of inadequacy. Many of the subjects I studied have never cropped up in my life again, and even if they do, I can simply refer back to a textbook (or, these days, the internet).
    I suspect we might just be very good at playing the "good grades" game. Because in school, it really is a game. You don't have to know the material, neccessarily, you just have to be able to show you think you know it.
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    Default You know you're an INFJ when...

    ...you feel that you're an old soul and a novice. Simultaneously.

    It is as if you're able to look at the world afresh every morning while being connected to it in some deeper, more fundamental level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrielle View Post
    I suspect we might just be very good at playing the "good grades" game. Because in school, it really is a game. You don't have to know the material, neccessarily, you just have to be able to show you think you know it.
    Yes, exactly! And not just in school, either. You'd be surprised how many people who are good at their jobs started out by "pretending" to know what they were doing.
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    I'd make a deal with God,
    And I'd get him to swap our places,
    Be running up that road,
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    With no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky is BLUE! View Post
    ...you feel that you're an old soul and a novice. Simultaneously.

    It is as if you're able to look at the world afresh every morning while being connected to it in some deeper, more fundamental level.
    Definitely. For me it comes from having a deep view of what goes on, but still making the most sensotarded mistakes. I replace words mid-speech with things that are far enough out of context to confuse anyone but my INTP friend.

    I think it comes from my little theory of: Se makes simple things simple and hard things hard. Ni, the opposite, makes simple things hard and hard things easy.

    I don't believe in the phrase 'this is hard' I use 'this is tough' or 'this is impossible.' To me, saying something is hard is basically saying you give up. I dont give up when my mind latches on a task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyward View Post
    Definitely. For me it comes from having a deep view of what goes on, but still making the most sensotarded mistakes. I replace words mid-speech with things that are far enough out of context to confuse anyone but my INTP friend.

    I think it comes from my little theory of: Se makes simple things simple and hard things hard. Ni, the opposite, makes simple things hard and hard things easy.

    I don't believe in the phrase 'this is hard' I use 'this is tough' or 'this is impossible.' To me, saying something is hard is basically saying you give up. I dont give up when my mind latches on a task.
    Yeah I know *exactly* what you mean about simple things hard and hard things easy. Although I've lifted a saying from Entrapment, "Its impossible, but doable." I think this summarizes the use of N* pretty dang well.

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    To summarize the use of N, excuse me, is not within your abilities

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    ...you find yourself thinking "GAWD, why do all these nutjobs keep talking to me??? Why won't they leave me alone?!?!?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    ...you find yourself thinking "GAWD, why do all these nutjobs keep talking to me??? Why won't they leave me alone?!?!?"
    You wonder if you are really a nutjob too
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    St. Stephen took rocks and St. Sebastian took arrows. You only have to take some jerks on an internet forum. Nut up.

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