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    Quote Originally Posted by GZA View Post
    3)Unorganized!
    Not me. That's a P trait. I'm a J. Ask anyone.

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    *Fear of confrontation

    Unfortunately, even with all their talents it can be paralyzing and debilitating.

    *Value judgements/opinions blocking their openness life experiences

    I know an INFJ who does not do movie theatres, refuses to shop at Target or Wal Mart all the while pumping his gas with something "corporate"
    (I realize this is only one specific example and not true for all)

    *Venting can seem like gossip and contradictory to NT's,

    Another example from a particular situation and again not true for all. I know someone who bashes her roommate and then has lunch with her. The roommate does it as well. I am assuming both are NF's(one tested as ENFJ, light on the E) or one NF and the other SF. But both are feelers nonetheless

    *Values used to destroy friends

    I once hit a parked car. The friend I was with wanted us to leave, out of fear I suppose. I told her I was going to stay and tell them what I did. So she got in her car and left to pick up our other friend. When the other friend returned(I/E INFJ) she told me she would of narced on me if I hadn't of told the people that I hit their car. I think this is preposterous and cannot in anyway understand how an NF would want to sabotage a friend for the sake of doing the right thing. To me, that breaks the pact of loyalty even if what the person did was wrong. Say I had of done it, couldn't she of talked to me first about how wrong it would of been before getting involved. I think she also threatened she would of called the cops.

    *Leaving friends for dead

    I once stuck up for my friend and his brother(both NF's) who were about to get jumped. One of the kids hit my friend, who did not respond. I pushed the kid off of him, next thing i know another guy clocks me. We are fighting and then the next thing I know the two NF's have fled the scene leaving me for death. Again, complete and utter absence of loyalty.

    *Contradictory value judgements

    I have known some female NF's to call another girl a slut but then go and have a one-night stand. So everyone is a whore but you eh? Judging other people against rigid values while not living up to them. Making all the rules but able to choose whether to follow them or not.

    *Harboring but remaining friends with people

    Keeping people at a distance for wrongs but still smiling to their face and remaining friends. But secretly pointing out their perceived flaws in private to others. Has the affect of the NF having a self perception of moral perfection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizm View Post
    I once hit a parked car. The friend I was with wanted us to leave, out of fear I suppose. I told her I was going to stay and tell them what I did. So she got in her car and left to pick up our other friend. When the other friend returned(I/E INFJ) she told me she would of narced on me if I hadn't of told the people that I hit their car. I think this is preposterous and cannot in anyway understand how an NF would want to sabotage a friend for the sake of doing the right thing. To me, that breaks the pact of loyalty even if what the person did was wrong. Say I had of done it, couldn't she of talked to me first about how wrong it would of been before getting involved. I think she also threatened she would of called the cops.
    Sounds to me like she was feeling guilty for advocating flight and was overcompensating, safe in the knowledge that she would not, in fact, be in any danger of having to turn you in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schizm View Post
    *Leaving friends for dead
    You need some new NF friends. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lookin4theBestNU View Post
    Top 3 reasons other NFs suck:
    1. I know you didn't ask for my help but you are going to get it anyway!
    2. I think you suck. I'd like you to go away. I just don't know how to tell you without being "mean". I know I will just avoid you instead of saying it.
    3. Poke! What will he do this time? Poke....Yes that got her going! Poke...hmmmm that didn't work. Poke-nudge-Poke Now that was a great reaction it was worth the wait!............... HEY!!! Stop picking on me back-JERK!
    1. applies to when my Mom died. I would be out at a bar drinking having a good time only to have an NF come up and try and have a psychology session in the bar. Retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    HA! You claim we're so arrogant when an NT started the top three reasons NTs suck, now...it's your turn!!!

    1. They're too afraid to show a little self-pride.
    2. They're so politically correct and worried about offending others.
    3. They think NTs are cold and evil.
    None of the above applies to me. I would consider myself a proud person and not politically correct as well as being married to an INTJ who is the greatest man alive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shimpei View Post
    1. they tend to be oversensitive
    2. they tend to be revengeful
    3. they tend to dissect every word I say to smell whether there is some hidden agenda or conspiracy going on behind their backs
    Somewhat at times although as I get older these traits are diminishing.

    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    1.) Take EVERYTHING personally
    2.) Can read vibes, but cannot always interpret them correctly
    3.) Take offense on behalf of loved ones and friends too easily and go into protector mode with violence
    #1 Sometimes at first, but after thinking things through I'm fine.
    #2 Can read vibes but I don't think I am often incorrect.
    #3 without a doubt, but not with violence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    NF sucks because :-
    #1 Their paranoid without exception!
    #2 Their paranoid about their paranoia.
    #3 They blame their paranoia on others.
    Rubbish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizm View Post
    Judging other people against rigid values while not living up to them. Making all the rules but able to choose whether to follow them or not.
    I don't think there's anything contradictory with judging someone against a moral standard you don't maintain as long as you judge yourself by the same moral standard. If you're going to call someone a slut for having a one-night stand and then have a one-night stand yourself, that's non-contradictory if you consequently consider yourself a slut too.

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    [QUOTE=JivinJeffJones;59536]Sounds to me like she was feeling guilty for advocating flight and was overcompensating, safe in the knowledge that she would not, in fact, be in any danger of having to turn you in.

    It was the other friend who threatened this. I do seriously need new friends.
    Last edited by Schizm; 10-10-2007 at 02:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    I don't think there's anything contradictory with judging someone against a moral standard you don't maintain as long as you judge yourself by the same moral standard. If you're going to call someone a slut for having a one-night stand and then have a one-night stand yourself, that's non-contradictory if you consequently consider yourself a slut too.

    True. This NF does not though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaveri View Post
    Santtu, I think your list is refreshingly accurate compared to most people's lists here.

    (Plus your list is more flattering, because I don't see those as very shameful drawbacks.)

    Yes. My list delves into negative personal experiences and definitely suffers from bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    1- TOUCHY (are you calling me fat?! maybe I AM fat! I shouldn't eat for a week!!!)
    2- like sappy movies (i.e. the notebook)
    3- always willing to interpret something as being a sign that you don't love them/are cheating on them

    yes- there will always be some exceptions- thank god
    2. The ending of The Notebook was not sad. Probably the happiest ending ever. I couldn't understand why people's eyes were watering at the end. The scene with the birds was perfect.

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