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    Default Idealist Sarcasm?

    My best friend is a female ENFJ. She's so much fun to be around. One of her best traits (in my opinion) is her artful use of sarcasm. She dabbles in it finely, as a painter in oils. Lovely!

    Is this something NFs are especially gifted at, or is she just special?

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    No, everyone knows how to be sarcastic. It's kind of sad really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silently Honest View Post
    No, everyone knows how to be sarcastic. It's kind of sad really.
    eh i agree. i'm a positive sarcasm expert, but yeah, everyone knows how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    eh i agree. i'm a positive sarcasm expert, but yeah, everyone knows how to do it.
    ..Not well
    for my life is slowed up by thought and the need to understand what I am living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelostnf View Post
    ..Not well
    Exactly.

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    no i don't think so

    sarcasm is mostly cultural

    but maybe some nf's are creative, and have a gift of words. and they use it for sarcasm. but i wouldn't say sarcasm specifically is a "inherent trait".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silently Honest View Post
    No, everyone knows how to be sarcastic. It's kind of sad really.
    eh? why is it sad?

    I say this living in the UK, where people are born with sarcasm implants and it's considered the bedrock of all the best humour...?

    I assume you're taking 'sarcasm' to mean only the nasty applications of it? There are lighter, less negative uses y'know...

    I mean you can have

    Mom: I just feel like I need to understand this, you know?
    Me: Yeah I know how intellectual integrity's always been important to you.

    which is undermining her, invalidating her and calling her a moron basically. Or you can have this:

    Mom: let me know what you want for dinner so I don't get the wrong things from the store
    Me: Uh yeah, cos like I'm so picky aren't I? You can never tell whether I'll just turn my nose up at something.
    Mom: Haha, I guess. I'll just get whatever's on special offer then.
    Me: yeah, whatever you fancy, I don't mind

    Which is telling her she's worrying too much and it's cool, I appreciate whatever she does for me and she needs to remember that.

    And then there's Night's current avatar. So much said, so simply, and the very decision to display it shows a sarcastic mind. And it's funny as hell whilst simultaneously making many valid points.

    Sometimes sarcasm is a bit like poetry. It's a way of saying an awful lot very concisely.
    It doesn't always have to be "being mean".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Nomad View Post
    no i don't think so

    sarcasm is mostly cultural

    but maybe some nf's are creative, and have a gift of words. and they use it for sarcasm. but i wouldn't say sarcasm specifically is a "inherent trait".
    it seems that NFs are very good at making "nice" sarcasm. they are the few people who can pump up someones self confidence with sarcsasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post

    I mean you can have

    Mom: I just feel like I need to understand this, you know?
    Me: Yeah I know how intellectual integrity's always been important to you.

    which is undermining her, invalidating her and calling her a moron basically.
    I guess it's all about tone and context. I think that's way more funny than the second scenario. In fact, it sounds like something I would playfully say to my roommate. But, maybe I'm meaner than my ENFP proposes.

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    I find those that are blessed in banter employ sarcasm with expert efficiency.

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