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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath Mania View Post
    You make some good observations about these types fit in, but the rest seems a bit arbitrary and contrived to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for team building using typology, but this smacks of N elitism. And that's troublesome.

    Team building can consist of any combo of types, provided you know the right ingredients of people. Yes, in theory your scheme could work. But so could hundreds of others.
    Thank you for you considered response. Might I ask follow up questions?

    Does having the "product" being N focused automatically make the organization N elite or N prejudiced?

    What if it's just the "product"? The group's main "product" is N based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalMethod View Post
    No, I understand.

    I understand you're making blanket statements.

    Blanket statements that put others down while putting yourself up.
    Is that how you take it? What about an enterprise that the main product is S based. Wouldn't the model from origination to final output and support be inherintly different?

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    hes speaking his opinion and his ideas...If you dont like it, give a reason why

    i agree with wrath mania though
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Night was probably referring to a logical argument.. which is certainly not a waste of time and talent.
    A theory is not an arguement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martian Manifesto View Post
    Thank you for you considered response. Might I ask follow up questions?

    Does having the "product" being N focused automatically make the organization N elite or N prejudiced?

    What if it's just the "product"? The group's main "product" is N based.
    Forgive me for rushing into this headfirst, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'product'. Do you mean a system or organization, or a physical invention. Maybe a vibrator that plays "come all ye faithful" (disregard this, please)?

    I'll cut to the chase: how can a product be N based? I don't get this concept. Anything out there has the potential to be used and enjoyed by any person, regardless of type: anyone could get something different out of it. This seems, no offense mind you, a little frivolous.

    Also, I'll concede for a moment your group isn't N elitist. But visions without input from a strong variety of people can have a high probability of failure. Not always, and not with small projects, but for large productions, yes. Maybe I shouldn't say N-Elitist, but N-Blind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Flower View Post
    Chill.
    Do you, Manifest, and MLitrell all roll together?
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath Mania View Post
    Forgive me for rushing into this headfirst, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'product'. Do you mean a system or organization, or a physical invention. Maybe a vibrator that plays "come all ye faithful" (disregard this, please)?

    I'll cut to the chase: how can a product be N based? I don't get this concept. Anything out there has the potential to be used and enjoyed by any person, regardless of type: anyone could get something different out of it. This seems, no offense mind you, a little frivolous.

    Also, I'll concede for a moment your group isn't N elitist. But visions without input from a strong variety of people can have a high probability of failure. Not always, and not with small projects, but for large productions, yes. Maybe I shouldn't say N-Elitist, but N-Blind.
    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Four times I say "Thank you".

    Okay, the "product" would be a thing or ability that would be REOCCURING. For example, if an athelete has certain S abilities, you can base an entire organization around not only what the S has done, what it can do, but what it will most likely be able to do in the foreseeable future.

    Yes, once a N product has come to light and been broght out, others can get on board. I'm not talking about a one time N thing. I am talking about a functional model for basing a group's successful planning when THEIR BEST & MOST RELIABLE ABILITY & COMMODITY IS N. Not any particular N. The ability N.

    Before any moves are made, I suggest varios levels of vetting the vision to avoid being "blind sided". No money would be spent until further along. Would this help alleviate the "blindness" potential? Avoiding "blindness" entirely is not a reasoable expectation for a N lead business/organization model because "blindness" is inherit to N. Obviously things will have to be felt out as the N visions work their way to fruition.

    I eagerly await feedback

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    It'd be fun watch you have a round with BlueWing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Do you, Manifest, and MLitrell all roll together?
    lol no but me and Wrath Mania do?

    and "roll together"? cmon, i dont roll with anyone lol
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    It'd be fun watch you have a round with BlueWing.
    That is one of the many reasons INFJs do things. So INFPs can watch. My girlfriend of six years is INFP. She likes to watch me go from silently unreadable to galvanizing entity and then back again. Well, she cringes too, but mainly she likes to watch.

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