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  • They are emotionally immature.

    58 31.18%
  • They just don't understand how feelers make decisions.

    90 48.39%
  • They confuse emotion with the MBTI definition of feeler.

    96 51.61%
  • They have an irrational fear of empathy.

    27 14.52%
  • They lack social skills.

    28 15.05%
  • They're big meanies!

    38 20.43%
  • Feelers are simply better at resolving conflict and dealing with their emotions

    10 5.38%
  • Feelers demonize thinkers in private instead of openly.

    25 13.44%
  • I'm a feeler and I think feelers suck too.

    10 5.38%
  • Other.

    39 20.97%
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    Yes only thinkers get stuff done, and only feelers would behave in a way that simply leads to them feeling good.

    Right.

    Ironically, your logic here is quite poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Yes only thinkers get stuff done, and only feelers would behave in a way that simply leads to them feeling good.

    Right.

    Ironically, your logic here is quite poor.

    You're a feeler you don't even know what logic is.

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    them they've all got unimaginable, magnificent, wonderful, stupid, amazing worlds. Not just one world. Hundreds of them. Thousands maybe.” -Neil Gaiman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patches View Post
    You're a feeler you don't even know what logic is.



    Pssshh....I'm revoking your ISTJ card. You've had a beeping fire alarm for three weeks. My inner ISTJ is laughing at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Yes only thinkers get stuff done, and only feelers would behave in a way that simply leads to them feeling good.

    Right.

    Ironically, your logic here is quite poor.
    It's much better than your reading:
    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    For some of us, it's "vision, logic, action" vs. "logic, feeling, sp. awareness".
    Can look alot like: getting stuff done vs. feeling good.
    You are seeing generalizations where none were made, and confusing appearance with reality. I know plenty of INTPs who accomplish far less in a day than ENFJs, and some F's who probably don't feel nearly as good as others.

    In any case, I took Arclight's initial list with a hefty dose of salt, and assumed mine would be taken in the same spirit. (A judiciously chosen emoticon might have helped, but I don't do emoticons.)

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    You're reading an awful lot into my post...confusing appearance with reality? I think you're doing the same thing, bro.

    *pets*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    You can run right off the edge of a cliff with your illogic, too, as long as it doesn't impact me. (See, I don't care either!)


    For some of us, it's "vision, logic, action" vs. "logic, feeling, sp. awareness".
    Can look alot like: getting stuff done vs. feeling good.

    (BTW, I don't demonize feelers. It isn't worth the effort, and they can be handy to have around.)
    Or.... Getting stuff done vs Getting things right. Seriously? my perception is that T's often have no vision at all Or an extremely narrow one.. Interesting.

    Logic can't explain the illogical and everything exists in duality and in opposition to itself.
    Logical can not even exist with out illogical.
    Therefore both have equal value, and to discount one is to discount the other since they are interdependent.

    To believe or to only accept what is logical, is illogical.
    Spock, Einstein and Sherlock Holmes would all agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    Or.... Getting stuff done vs Getting things right. Seriously? my perception is that T's often have no vision at all Or an extremely narrow one.. Interesting.

    Logic can't explain the illogical and everything exists in duality and in opposition to itself.
    Logical can not even exist with out illogical.
    Therefore both have equal value, and to discount one is to discount the other since they are interdependent.

    To believe or to only accept what is logical, is illogical.
    Spock, Einstein and Sherlock Holmes would all agree
    Sometimes the best is the enemy of the good. (If we insist on perfection, we may never implement anything.) I certainly agree that many T's lack vision. This is why I said *some* T's operate with vision-logic-action. I won't insult S types by saying those who don't are ST's; they are more like any T not using their N function very well. For those T's who use N well, though, vision is paramount, and logic (as well as feeling/values) operates in its service. I will not devalue or discount the non-logical. It may have equal value to the logical, but not in every situation. One must apply the right methods to the task at hand.
    Last edited by Coriolis; 03-13-2011 at 12:52 AM.

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    Feelers are demon spawn. It's true. I've been called this on several occasions...and because I like to make sweeping generalisations , this must be true for all feelers.
    I shall return to spreading bitterness and malcontent now....no unicorns and rainbows for any of you.
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    I don't find thinkers are the ones prone to "demonizing" others. Take a look at this thread, for example. For those who do, perhaps it's because they think only demon possession can explain all the bitter, idiotic thinker-vilification that goes on under the "we thinkers are wise angels" banner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post

    Logic can't explain the illogical and everything exists in duality and in opposition to itself.
    Logical can not even exist with out illogical.
    Therefore both have equal value, and to discount one is to discount the other since they are interdependent.

    To believe or to only accept what is logical, is illogical.
    Spock, Einstein and Sherlock Holmes would all agree
    What gives you the idea that things exist in duality? May as well say cannot trust just physics because there must be an "anti-physics" which explains what physics cannot. Likewise, logical frameworks can take into illogical actions into accounts once they recognize that the sole source of illogical action is humanity.
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