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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Anger manifest is stereotypical 'Fe' -- ENFP being expressive by nature (and more bark than bite, IMO, 'cause we are nice like that) can be misconstrued when 'angry' or partially joking. Also 'P' being more about possibilities and XNFP more about metaphors etc., I think at least for me when I say things people may take it more seriously or face value.

    Example, just now I was on the front porch with my INFP roommie and her 2 IXXX friends (I'm gonna guess IXXJ) and I told them I got 'run over' by a bike (jerk sideswiped me and snagged my bag). I said next time I'm just gonna kick the bike to knock the biker off.

    The IXXJ were listening very quietly, even bored until I said this. And then one girl said, "Wow! Where is this violence coming from??" I don't know if she were joking as well, but anywhoo, I realized joking about kicking people (even when deserved) doesn't go over very well in certain new company.

    I think at the brunch I was at earlier, the folks would have laughed or commiserated more with me.

    Or maybe not.
    I am only an ENFP when I drive my car then... In the big5, I have a very low neurotiscm score. Maybe that's why! Or maybe Im just not a an ENFP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-6 View Post
    Okay, what do ENFPs do when traumatized? Is this type more susceptable to losing their flippin mind?
    Depends on the trauma, of course, but I'll bet 80% of us will withdraw. That's when the nights of torment begin and we lose our flippin' minds... but you won't see any of it, 'cause by then we're recluses. Do I speak from personal experience? Of course not! Never! Nuh-ever! ...

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    During traumatic times, you'll never see me cry. I'll do that when I'm alone and I know no ones around. I often use humor to get over things like that. When I lost my dog that I'd had for over 12 years (and then I lost my cat that I had for about 8 years a month later), I kind of numbed myself up and it didn't hit me until months later. Numbing myself is what I'm good at.

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    my dad described me as a time bomb. as an ENFp, i treasure relationships with pretty much anyone, so i would go out of my way to make sure things are at least neutral. you know, just so that we can get along. so when a complete jackass takes advantage of this by being racist etc. o my blood boils like nothing else. i back away from these intense feelings, i try not to throw any punches because i know it's not healthy. however, if i don't, i end up regretting it, but if i do, i still feel guilty. i just can't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaIndigo View Post
    During traumatic times, you'll never see me cry. I'll do that when I'm alone and I know no ones around. I often use humor to get over things like that. When I lost my dog that I'd had for over 12 years (and then I lost my cat that I had for about 8 years a month later), I kind of numbed myself up and it didn't hit me until months later. Numbing myself is what I'm good at.

    Exactly!! I feel ENFP again!

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    cool topic, some interesting reading.

    usually, I just bleed nastiness when I'm angry until I'm left alone a while without the angering stimulus. It doesn't take much time at all for me to get over it though, and my xnfj girlfriend takes full advantage of this. Irritating~!

    as for trauma? i am uncannily good at forgetting things fairly quickly. weird!!

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    my Te flairs up and i beome super stoic, stony faced, cold as iron. but never will i yell. there is no place for yelling, when yelling starts, its a snowball. any person with a high EQ will tell you that.

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    In my thankfully limited experience, if you get them mad enough, they flip out and their feelings color their Ne, which goes haywire to pick up on many perceived slights. They then ascribe all manner of thoughts and motives to the irritant that are based more on their aggrieved Fi rather than anything else. They begin to lose interest in and capacity for analyzing a situation objectively, preferring to define what it is that is wrong about the irritant. It is as if they want to isolate the irritant in a bubble and, by denouncing it, make themselves not care about it, contrary to their natural inclinations to care . . . perhaps to restore equilibrium.
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    So many phases of anger, but honestly I can remember the last time i was actually angry and it was almost three years ago.

    I have eruptions caused by frustration from time to time, but actually angry? not so often.

    That time three years ago? I was angry for 3 days straight. Absolute rage.

    Quote Originally Posted by IF3157 View Post
    their feelings color their Ne, which goes haywire to pick up on many perceived slights. They then ascribe all manner of thoughts and motives to the irritant that are based more on their aggrieved Fi rather than anything else. They begin to lose interest in and capacity for analyzing a situation objectively, preferring to define what it is that is wrong about the irritant. It is as if they want to isolate the irritant in a bubble and, by denouncing it, make themselves not care about it, contrary to their natural inclinations to care . . . perhaps to restore equilibrium.
    While I recognise the NF paranoia thing (My INFP friends say and do the same thing, about the imagined slights, and we don't ahve to be angry to do it, just it's when we are mad that these flights of paranoia get heard) but the rest? I'm not so sure, only when I've really lost it do i stop listening at all, and often a misinterpretation can be corrected and I'll calm down and even apologise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-6 View Post
    Okay, what do ENFPs do when traumatized? Is this type more susceptable to losing their flippin mind?
    It's tough. We get stuck. We have the raging emotions of guilt, hurt, deppression, rejection. Then we get stuck into a Ti loop that finds (what our tortured minds consider) concrete and rational arguments that back up our feelings of self worthlessness, and then a spiral down until we hit something that helps snaps us out of it again. That NF paranoia locks us down tight and it is very hard to get a hold of your thoughts and feeligns and start to piece things back together again.

    And we will become more and more reclusive the worse it gets.

    If you haven't seen your ENFP friend for days and you normally see them alot then one of two thigns has happened, they've fallen in love or are in trouble.

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