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    Sometimes I think that enfp's will try so hard to be liked, that they become disliked. There's one enfp girl I know that tries so hard to be nice, that it's sickening.

    They might not try hard to be popular, but I think they try hard to be generally liked. But hey, i'm not an enfp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Sometimes I think that enfp's will try so hard to be liked, that they become disliked. There's one enfp girl I know that tries so hard to be nice, that it's sickening.
    Yeah, that anecdotal piece of "evidence" surely founds the basis for your (false) generalization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Yeah, that anecdotal piece of "evidence" surely founds the basis for your (false) generalization.
    If it's true for even 20% of enfp's, I'll consider it a successful generalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    If it's true for even 20% of enfp's, I'll consider it a successful generalization.
    Eh, I think the trait you described would likely be more akin to either or both the ESFP and the ENFJ types.
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    Its not hard to tell if someone's liking you or not. ENFPs (or at least the ones I've met) possess the uncanny ability to be able to get inside someone's head and figure out their opinion of them. If I perceive (or falsely perceive) that my overlikableness is getting to somebody, I'll back down a little, or if I don't give a rats ass about the acquaintence, I'll push harder to spite them.

    Maybe its just because I have a high N, i dno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Sometimes I think that enfp's will try so hard to be liked, that they become disliked. There's one enfp girl I know that tries so hard to be nice, that it's sickening.

    They might not try hard to be popular, but I think they try hard to be generally liked. But hey, i'm not an enfp.
    Umm, I don't really think so.

    I will try my best, sometimes go more than my 50% halfway there just to establish a connection or keep one or even understand where it isn't connecting, but it has nothing to do with being liked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyGoose View Post
    I will try my best, sometimes go more than my 50% halfway there just to establish a connection or keep one or even understand where it isn't connecting, but it has nothing to do with being liked.
    B-I-N-G-O!!!!

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    my ENFP brother is absurdly popular wherever he goes. I've had to put up with it all my life - he's the charming, adorable, likeable one that people instantly like, whilst I'm the meaner brother that you "have to watch" lol

    and yet my brother and I have often had arguments because he's been under the impression that some trivial thing I said devastated his image and popularity, when in reality it's virtually untouchable and the only thing that ever threatens his popularity is his own flakiness when people find out, after a while, that likeable and charming though he is, he just can't be relied on and almost always has some sort of hidden agenda of what he's trying to get you to do...

    I think he does perceive his own popularity, but I think he's also aware of its fragility. But rather than acknowledge the source of that fragility he tends to blame others and accuse them of badmouthing him or slandering him behind his back or whatever, when someone turns cold on him. Somehow he can't ever seem to admit that something he did wasn't quite ethical... you know? A bit like me being unable to admit a lot of the time that what I said or thought wasn't logical or reasonable... he has to believe all the time that he's a paragon of virtue and anything that threatens that image tends to rile him pretty quick...

    like I tend to have a need to always be able to one up or top any perception anyone comes up with and be logically right, he seems to have a need to be loved and adored. I can't ever settle for being competent, I need to be awesome at everything I do, I need rave reviews; he can't settle for being liked, he needs to be loved and totally trusted. Gets offended if someone just needs to get to know him better before trusting him, sorta thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanTheClown View Post
    Its not hard to tell if someone's liking you or not. ENFPs (or at least the ones I've met) possess the uncanny ability to be able to get inside someone's head and figure out their opinion of them. If I perceive (or falsely perceive) that my overlikableness is getting to somebody, I'll back down a little, or if I don't give a rats ass about the acquaintence, I'll push harder to spite them.
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!

    You ENFPs with cajones crack me up!!!
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    And its funny because they can't do anything about me spiting them because the majority of the people around us would side with me on any argument i bring up vs. random person.

    and strength in numbers can dominate logic if there's enough peer pressure. (imo, and situational)

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