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    Default Socially Conservative NF's?

    Do they exist, or am I the only one. My philosophy in life is really don't ram it down anyones throat but I do wish everyone followed old school traditional beliefs. Sure I know that my beliefs might not be your beliefs, and I don't mind you having them, but I always feel kinda bummed out when someone close to me chooses to be more liberal in how they approach social issues (I.E. Casual sex, drinking, flirting, lieing, drugs and so on and so forth...). I get agitated when I see an old man sitting in the back seat while some chump boyfriend is riding shotgun. I get pissed when no one stands up for an older person on the bus to offer them a seat. I may be considered sexist in how I think men should always pay for dinner and that they should open a door or hold out a seat for women. Heck I know I sound like an SJ now but I was wondering if anyone else is like that out there in the NF world?

    Mind you, I am an extreme economic liberal bordering on socialist/commie red diaper doper baby scum...

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    economically liberal and socially conservative? you're heading down some sort of medical path? you're an ENFP?

    are you... "me"?

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    agreed with everything minus the part about the personal convictions, well except for the constant drunk that some of my friends seem to think is normal and acceptable. I could never live that way and find it extremely hard to think others are happy that way but I let them do what they do cause I'm not their jiminy cricket

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    Fi = strong values.

    Some of my values happen to be in accord with accepted or long standing traditions.

    I don't want to get into it, but, in most cases, it makes sense that a guy would pay more often than a lady and for a younger person to assume the more physically strenuous role/position.

    Talking on the cellphone while purchasing something from someone is just fucking rude, and dehumanizing.

    Much of etiquette, I find to be humorously devoid of meaning or significant purpose, but having manners in the sense of being a considerate person, I value tremendously.

    Hold the door for the person behind you, while driving, let the person trying to merge lanes in, if you don't want to be kind, that's fine, but just don't be an inconsiderate dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Ayrab View Post
    Do they exist, or am I the only one.
    No I uphold rather traditional beliefs myself as well. Although I tend to stress like John Paul II that tradition is ultimately about creativity rather than mere imitation of the past. Chesterton had a good analogy of comparing tradition to a wall around a playground.

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    Sure they exist. Who do you think writes the romance novels?

    But seriously, yes, there are definitely socially conservative NFs. Their ideals are things like honor, chivalry, in some cases stoicism, and stuff like that.
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    Actually Stoicism as a philosophy seems more NT in nature; but I understand your general point.

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    To balance my strong ethical values of being kind to others with constantly running late to EVERYTHING, I let about 50% of people merge ahead of me in traffic.

    It helps me sleep at night !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Actually Stoicism as a philosophy seems more NT in nature; but I understand your general point.
    Fair enough but I'm thinking of NFs like my dad. I think he's an INFJ. He's definitely an F but he doesn't like to burden anybody with his internal stuff and he is always the calm one in any crisis. He's also a bit of a mystic which is why I think he's NF.
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    Well Stoicism is about being indifferent towards pain and the world. NFs are certainly not that way. That was my point.

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