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[INFJ] Call to Action for all INFJs

statuesquechica

New member
Joined
Jul 8, 2009
Messages
428
MBTI Type
INFj
Enneagram
9w8
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
So, this is an interesting hypothesis and I wanted to contribute my data, so ANALYZE AWAY!! :happy2:

Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Type 3 Image Focus || 10%
Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||| 46%
Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||| 62%
Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||| 34%
Type 7 Adventurousness || 10%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||| 54%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||||||| 86%



type score type behavior motivation
2 22 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
9 21 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
1 16 I must be perfect and good to survive.
5 15 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
8 13 I must be strong and in control to survive.
4 11 I must be unique/different to survive.
6 8 I must be secure and safe to survive.
3 2 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
7 2 I must be fun and entertained to survive.


Your main type is Type 2
Your variant stacking is so/sx/sp
Your level of health is above average
Your main type is which ever behavior you utilize most and/or prefer. Your variant reflects your scoring profile on all nine types: so = social variant (compliant, friendly), sx = sexual variant (assertive, intense), sp = self preservation variant (withdrawn, security seeking).

I always test high on 9, 2 and 1 but looking at core motivation and my own actions (or inaction, as the case may be) I believe I am correctly identified as a 9. This is the highest I have ever scored on 8 so that was surprising and maybe more accurately reflects my 9w8. I do believe I have 2w1 in my tritype (if that theory holds any water). I also believe I am sx/so/sp but my social scores come up fairly high.

My socionics results = EII

**Important to note, I had to take the shorter version of the socionics test because the longer version wouldn't allow me to progress beyond the visual component. This may skew the results of the data because I did take a different test.

Let us know what your conclusions are [MENTION=20531]yeghor[/MENTION] :)
 

Polaris

AKA Nunki
Joined
Apr 7, 2009
Messages
2,533
MBTI Type
INFJ
Enneagram
451
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
The socionics test has always been pretty accurate for me--it usually gives me IEI, with EIE and ILI making occasional appearances. It never types me as an EII, and I would be surprised if it did, because EIIs are primarily feeling types and only secondarily intuitive, whereas INFJs are N-F-T-S. An EII's feeling, moreover, emphasizes their personal attitudes, morals, and wishes, and, to the extent that it operates on an interpersonal level, minimizes the number of people in its focus. That is the opposite of what Fe, an INFJ's auxiliary function, does. Fe is inherently oriented toward groups of people. It does not emphasize personal ethics, and maximizes the number of people in its focus. Fe avoids clashing with the group, whereas socionics Fi is sometimes very willing to run against the atmosphere. The EII's form of intuition is also out of keeping with INFJ. EIIs use Ne, which is associated with noticing the possibilities offered by objects in the surrounding environment, creating new opportunities and beginnings, and an ease of self-expression. That's almost the opposite of MBTI Ni, an INFJ's primary function. Ni is detached from the surrounding environment and often struggles to express its perceptions. And like socionics Ni, it works through mental imagery and is associated with foresight.

I'm wondering how many people in this thread are calling themselves INFJs because they identify with the profile or are I+N+F+J. INFJ means Ni-Fe-Ti-Se, and that corresponds more to IEI than it does to EII. Granted, there is a bit of a problem with IEIs having some P-ish characteristics, but I've always been a very weak J, and INFJs are often called the least J of the Js.
 

autumnandtherain

New member
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Messages
185
MBTI Type
INFJ
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
Conduct all the polls:

For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.

4.


Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||||| 62%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||||| 62%
Type 3 Image Focus |||||| 26%
Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||| 58%
Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||| 46%
Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||||| 58%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||||| 58%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||| 22%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||| 62%

type score type behavior motivation
1 15 I must be perfect and good to survive.
2 15 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
9 15 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
4 14 I must be unique/different to survive.
6 14 I must be secure and safe to survive.
7 14 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
5 11 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
3 6 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
8 5 I must be strong and in control to survive.

Your main type is Type 1
Your variant stacking is spsosx
Your level of health is above average

I feel like I need to say that I get something different each time I take an enneagram test. I've never gotten 1 before, but I think it's somewhere in my tritype but not my first. I usually get 4, but I've also gotten 5, and 9 before with various different stackings every time. Same goes for instinctual variants, though I usually type as sp/sx.

www.sociotype.com/tests/result/est/71110
Your Sociotype: EII-1Fi (INFj)
Other Possible Types
IEE (ENFp): 79% as likely as EII.
IEI (INFp): 70% as likely as EII.
EIE (ENFj): 69% as likely as EII.

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) *************************** (27.2)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) **************** (16.9)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************** (34.4)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) **************************************** (40.4)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********* (9.8)
unused
introverted Thinking (Ti) ***************** (17)
limited use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ****************************************** (42.5)
excellent use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************************************** (51.6)
excellent use
Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INFP

I've never typed as INFP before. I'd consider it, except I'm fairly positive that I don't use Fi/Ne.
 

Eilonwy

Vulnerability
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
7,051
MBTI Type
INFJ
Enneagram
4
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||| 46%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||| 38%
Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||||| 62%
Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||| 70%
Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||| 34%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||| 34%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||| 46%

type score type behavior motivation
5 17 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
2 16 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
6 16 I must be secure and safe to survive.
4 15 I must be unique/different to survive.
1 11 I must be perfect and good to survive.
9 11 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
3 9 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
7 8 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
8 8 I must be strong and in control to survive.

Your main type is Type 5
Your variant stacking is spsosx
Your level of health is very low, i.e. very unhealthy

I got my result of 4 from a different enneagram test. Actually, the one [MENTION=8936]highlander[/MENTION] recommends in this thread.

Brought over from the other thread you asked me to take it in:

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For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.

At certain points in my life, I would have scored myself as high as a 5. I still think I have this basic thought pattern, but have managed to work around it, so I'm going with a 3.
 

Venetian

New member
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May 10, 2014
Messages
8
MBTI Type
Isfp
Enneagram
4w3
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||| 38%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||| 54%
Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||||| 54%
Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||| 58%
Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||||| 54%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||| 42%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||| 50%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||| 54%

type score type behavior motivation
4 16 I must be unique/different to survive.
5 14 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
2 13 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
3 13 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
6 13 I must be secure and safe to survive.
9 13 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
8 12 I must be strong and in control to survive.
7 10 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
1 9 I must be perfect and good to survive.

Your main type is Type 4
Your variant stacking is spsosx
Your level of health is above average


Test Results
Your Sociotype: EII-1Ne (INFj)
Other Possible Types

IEI (INFp): 94% as likely as EII.
EIE (ENFj): 87% as likely as EII.
IEE (ENFp): 82% as likely as EII.

www.sociotype.com/tests/result/est/71271#sthash.VzLqba3O.dpuf
 

yeghor

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Messages
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I'll try to make sense of all these data within this week I hope...
 

Tiltyred

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Messages
4,322
MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
468
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Not sure why I was tagged, but maybe it's because I identified as INFJ for many years. I took both these tests and came out as EII and enneagram 9. I feel pretty sure 9w8 is right for me.
 
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SOCIONICS test results

ESI-1Fi (ISFj)

Other Possible Types

SEE (ESFp): 73% as likely as ESI.
EII (INFj): 68% as likely as ESI.
LSI (ISTj): 52% as likely as ESI.

ENNEAGRAM test results

Your main type is Type 9
Your variant stacking is sx/sp/so
Your level of health is average


type score type behavior motivation
9 19 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
3 16 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
4 15 I must be unique/different to survive.
7 15 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
8 12 I must be strong and in control to survive.
2 11 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
5 11 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
6 11 I must be secure and safe to survive.
1 7 I must be perfect and good to survive.
 

Yeah...Nope.

New member
Joined
Feb 3, 2014
Messages
28
MBTI Type
ERMM
Enneagram
5w4
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
Not sure why I was tagged, but maybe it's because I identified as INFJ for many years. I took both these tests and came out as EII and enneagram 9. I feel pretty sure 9w8 is right for me.

Hi [MENTION=5723]Tiltyred[/MENTION]. I'm INFJ e9w8, too!
 

yeghor

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Messages
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I am compiling the data but there are some missing parts... Could you please supply these information as well, if you please...?

PoLR description below:

For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.

[MENTION=15318]Nights and Days[/MENTION] http://www.sociotype.com/tests/

[MENTION=16382]Ene[/MENTION] http://www.sociotype.com/tests/

[MENTION=20691]atlascatcher[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=17164]iNtrovert[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=18346]LittleV[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=9335]Maddy[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=6971]21%[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=5159]Lexicon[/MENTION] Socionics result and PoLR description rating

[MENTION=6689]Polaris[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=20761]underwaterthing[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=9273]Vasilisa[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=16742]_eric_[/MENTION] PoLR description rating
[MENTION=20891]Yeah...Nope.[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=20511]Odi et Amo[/MENTION] Socionics result and PoLR description rating

[MENTION=17656]hazelsees[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=7386]statuesquechica[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=19591]autumnandtherain[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=21570]Venetian[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

PoLR rating is important in terms of determining how much you identify with EII type...

The data is just pointing out the enneagram inclinations of people who identify as INFJs... I'll share it once the missing data is added...

Thanks for all your contributions...
 

Noon

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Jul 23, 2010
Messages
790
type score type behavior motivation
5 19 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
6 18 I must be secure and safe to survive.
3 13 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
2 12 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
4 12 I must be unique/different to survive.
9 11 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
1 10 I must be perfect and good to survive.
7 10 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
8 6 I must be strong and in control to survive.

Your Sociotype: EII-1Ne (INFj)

LII (INTj): 69% as likely as EII.
IEE (ENFp): 68% as likely as EII.
IEI (INFp): 60% as likely as EII.

ADDENDUM 1: 3.5/5
 

Ene

Active member
Joined
Aug 16, 2012
Messages
3,574
MBTI Type
iNfj
Enneagram
5w4
I am compiling the data but there are some missing parts... Could you please supply these information as well, if you please...?

PoLR description below:



[MENTION=15318]Nights and Days[/MENTION] http://www.sociotype.com/tests/

[MENTION=16382]Ene[/MENTION] http://www.sociotype.com/tests/

[MENTION=20691]atlascatcher[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=17164]iNtrovert[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=18346]LittleV[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=9335]Maddy[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=6971]21%[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=5159]Lexicon[/MENTION] Socionics result and PoLR description rating

[MENTION=6689]Polaris[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=20761]underwaterthing[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=9273]Vasilisa[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=16742]_eric_[/MENTION] PoLR description rating
[MENTION=20891]Yeah...Nope.[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=20511]Odi et Amo[/MENTION] Socionics result and PoLR description rating

[MENTION=17656]hazelsees[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=7386]statuesquechica[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=19591]autumnandtherain[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

[MENTION=21570]Venetian[/MENTION] PoLR description rating

PoLR rating is important in terms of determining how much you identify with EII type...

The data is just pointing out the enneagram inclinations of people who identify as INFJs... I'll share it once the missing data is added...

Thanks for all your contributions...

Hey, yeghor.

I'm not quite sure what it is that you need me to do.

I would say for me, on that scale, maybe a 1.

I'm not easily intimidated and I am not inferior to anyone. I'm simply myself, different than all the rest and all the rest are different from each other. We're all the same, but we're all different. I'm the best there is at being me and I don't compare myself to anyone else. I stopped doing that a long time ago. As far as aggressive people, I've had guns held to my head and had maniacs screaming in my face and still, I didn't back down on my position...so, I'd say I'm not easily intimidated. Some people think that because I'm nonconfrontational [I'm very easy going in day to day life] in the little things that I'd be a push over, until they try to push.
 

yeghor

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Hey, yeghor.

I'm not quite sure what it is that you need me to do.

I would say for me, on that scale, maybe a 1.

I'm not easily intimidated and I am not inferior to anyone. I'm simply myself, different than all the rest and all the rest are different from each other. We're all the same, but we're all different. I'm the best there is at being me and I don't compare myself to anyone else. I stopped doing that a long time ago. As far as aggressive people, I've had guns held to my head and had maniacs screaming in my face and still, I didn't back down on my position...so, I'd say I'm not easily intimidated. Some people think that because I'm nonconfrontational [I'm very easy going in day to day life] in the little things that I'd be a push over, until they try to push.

Ene your socionics test result was missing if I am not mistaken...
 
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ndovjtjcaqidthi

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[MENTION=20531]yeghor[/MENTION]

Your Sociotype: IEI-2Ni (INFp)

IEE (ENFp): 91% as likely as IEI.
EIE (ENFj): 80% as likely as IEI.
ILE (ENTp): 74% as likely as IEI.
 

Polaris

AKA Nunki
Joined
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Messages
2,533
MBTI Type
INFJ
Enneagram
451
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
yeghor said:
Polaris PoLR description rating
I skipped this because I don't score or identify as an EII. But since you're asking for it, I will provide it.

Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.
I don't as a rule dislike conflict; actually, there's a part of me that really enjoys a good argument. Part of my maturation process has been learning to keep that aspect of myself under control. When I choose to let a disagreement go, it's because I value the person's good will and want to maintain a relatively peaceful atmosphere, not because I think I'm going to "lose."

Overly aggressive people are by definition going overboard with their pursuit of conflict, so I certainly don't hold them up as an ideal. I don't necessarily dislike them, though. They can be amusing for their exaggerated tendencies and admirable for their strength. And they can, of course, just look childish, or worse, inspire fear by putting people in danger.

A lack of self-assertion is a long way from being my worst flaw. In the past, I had too much self-assertiveness.

Overall, I would give it about a 2.5 out of 5. I'm generally very peaceable and try hard to keep on most people's good sides; I think that conflict is usually a poor alternative to more harmonious solutions. On the other hand, I'm quite capable of asserting myself and sometimes have to hold my tongue.
 

iNtrovert

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Messages
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MBTI Type
Ni
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.

It depends. It's true that I hate to be around domineering people. I will try to avoid confrontation but when confronted or when someone I love it attacked I will fight back and I will win. Idk I always feel I’m aggressive when I need to be. I guess ill rate as 3 out of 5.
 

Lexicon

Temporal Mechanic
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Messages
12,341
MBTI Type
JINX
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5w6
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
I am compiling the data but there are some missing parts... Could you please supply these information as well, if you please...?

@Lexicon Socionics result and PoLR description rating

:huh: I provided that in my previous post:

*edit* I've definitely taken that test before (socionics) - gotten IEI (INFp) a few times, & EII (INFj) a few times.. so it's really anyone's guess.


Probably somewhere between 1-3 in terms of inferiority complex issues. That's something I've spent most of my adult life working to undo, and I feel like I've come a long way. I'm not terribly assertive, by default, but I'm not a doormat, either. Being supportive to others who have dealt with inferiority issues helped me to sort out some of my own, over time.

Those are my best answers - pardon if it's not as precise as you might prefer, but, my mind rates things more in brackets than single points.
Only other thing I can offer is that I've gotten IEI for that socionics test a bit more often than EII.
 

LittleV

Just a note...
Joined
May 5, 2013
Messages
271
MBTI Type
INFJ
Enneagram
4w3
I'd also skipped the PoLR description rating because I'm not an EII... though I'd give that rating a 1. I have more of a problem with someone treating a notion as fact/truth and waving it around - than someone behaving crudely/disgracefully and being unapologetic about it. There hasn't been anyone I haven't confronted in some way... even though I'd try to be as fair and diplomatic as possible. Even then... the person's benefit would still be on my mind; I aim for improvement... and if I wouldn't see that happening, I'd step away and hope for the best. There is a lot I'd do behind the scenes within every one of my interactions, and I tend to care more about those I am talking to than they'd realize (in an objective sense... gauging for levels of psychological comfort).
 

Flâneuse

don't ask me
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MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
9w1
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
I'm an MBTI INFP and a socionics INFj. I'm not sure why I was tagged, but:

For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict not because it disturbs the peace but [and] because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately [often] fail, always.

4/5
 
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