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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Conduct all the polls:

    For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

    Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.
    I can voice my opinion. I don't like to hurt nice people so I often won't do it unless I feel somewhat pushed. I was more timid when I was younger but I remember when my boss's boss, a tall, large, older preacher with a booming preacher voice, got in my face for doing something that I had a good reason for doing. I yelled right back at him, even though I was 5'2" and under 90lbs and soft-spoken. (Asshat left me alone after that but tore my boss a new one.) He was being a dick and I can't tolerate bullies. Someone might catch me off guard and I might not react immediately, but I can stand up for myself.

    I don't generally like to dominate. I was uncomfortable when that was a big part of my parenting responsibilities. I can do it if I have to, but I much prefer collaboration, negotiation, and autonomy. I won't lead if there is someone else who is even marginally competent who is willing to do it.
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    My tests are always all over the place, but usually concentrate on 5 and 6. So I'm not sure I'm a 9. Anyway I still plan on thoroughly investigating the system and typing myself sometime in the near future since school is almost over.

    EII again
    IEE (ENFp): 88% as likely as EII.
    SEE (ESFp): 62% as likely as EII.
    ESI (ISFj): 61% as likely as EII.


    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||||| 66%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||| 30%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||| 58%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||||||| 66%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||| 46%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Conduct all the polls:

    For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

    Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.
    2

    I dislike people who are overbearing and dominant in a way which disregards other people's agency and authority over themselves. I have no problem being assertive though. I sometimes won't at first because I fear their reaction, but if something keeps bothering me or bothers me enough I won't hesitate even when I should.

    Edit: This does sound 6-ish...

    Edit: And what @cafe said.

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    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||||||| 78%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||| 26%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||| 38%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||| 34%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||| 58%

    type score type behavior motivation
    1 19 I must be perfect and good to survive.
    3 17 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
    9 14 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
    2 12 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
    5 12 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
    7 11 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
    6 9 I must be secure and safe to survive.
    8 8 I must be strong and in control to survive.
    4 6 I must be unique/different to survive.

    Your main type is Type 1
    Your variant stacking is so/sx/sp
    Your level of health is above average
    I tested INFj on the sociotype test. You can view my results here.

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    Enneagram Results:

    Type 1 Perfectionism ||||||||||||||| 66%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||| 26%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||| 14%
    Type 4 Individualism ||||||||||||||||||| 78%
    Type 5 Intellectualism ||||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 6 Security Focus ||||||||||||| 56%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||| 38%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness ||||||||||||||| 62%
    Type 9 Calmness ||||||||||||| 50%

    Your main type is Type 4
    Your variant stacking is sp/sx/so
    Your level of health is above average



    I've been typed by others as a 458 tritype but I'm not 100% convinced.



    Extended Sociotype Test Results:

    Your Sociotype: EII-2Ne (INFj)
    LII (INTj): 82% as likely as EII.
    IEE (ENFp): 80% as likely as EII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Wow, so you actually do listen to some reason. Let this play out
    You complained about Yeghor mixing theories without backing up his assertions, you & others challenged him to prove his point of view & it appears that he's attempting to gather data to see where the chips may fall.
    So why disrupt this thread unless you're concerned he may gather data supporting his point of view?
    I'm hoping he gives it his best shot, I'd like to see where this thread goes & I suspect others wouldn't mind observing & participating in Yeghor's experiment.

    Give the guy a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Conduct all the polls:

    For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

    Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.
    0/5.

    Actually this question recalled to me the words of the fictional doctor Gregory House. He said something about niceness actually being a source of cowardice, because he was talking about the sort of niceness that is motivated by fear of retaliation. The inability to speak up or stand up for oneself is a flaw that should be overcome, IMO. Also, in the words of a professor of mine, "Fuck keeping the peace. The peace has already been broken."

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    I'm too type-aware for these tests to be accurate, but I'm very certain I'm a 4w5 sp/sx. I think I identify with EII the most but I don't really understand socionics.

    My 4-ness is in constant conflict with my Fe, and that seems to be the source of a lot of my troubles, in that I don't know whether ultimately I want to be selfish or selfless. I can identify with E1 more than E2, but I'm way too self-absorbed to really care much about how the world should be. I want to be right to a certain extent, but ultimately I'd rather be dramatically flawed and frail and die a tragic death, but then again my Fe says that is wrong. Well, let's just say it's always a fun tug-of-war...
    4w5 sp/sx EII

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    Gah... that took longer than I thought. Here goes:


    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||| 54%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||||| 26%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||||||| 78%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||||||| 66%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||| 30%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||| 42%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||| 42%



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    Your Sociotype: EII-0 (INFj)

    Brief Description of the EII

    Using introverted feeling as her base function and extroverted intuition as her creative, the EII is adept at understanding people's internal drive and motivation. She often acts reserved, respectful, and polite around others she does not know well but will eventually open up more. She implicitly trusts her intuition when judging someone, and this intuition serves her well at grasping more abstract concepts. EIIs need to constantly set new goals for themselves and they care deeply about meeting these goals. However it should be noted that these goals are very personal, and she places less weight on the conventional achievements that society values, so often any correlation is largely coincidental. At her best, the EII is known for respecting other people's beliefs and values while also being an overachiever at school and work; at her worst, the EII's compassion and empathy can cause her undue harm when the people she cares about are suffering. Overall, the EII cares about diligence, meeting one's individuals goals, and respecting others; she distates behavior that is overtly loud, abrasive, or aggressive. Learn more about the EII here!

    Other Possible Types

    IEI (INFp): 73% as likely as EII.
    IEE (ENFp): 67% as likely as EII.
    EIE (ENFj): 60% as likely as EII.
    4w5 sp/sx EII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Conduct all the polls:

    For those who score INFj as an INFJ, on a scale of 1 to 5 (please use as much self-awareness as possible, introspect like hell for accuracy, 5 being extremely accurate), how much do you relate to this?

    Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.

    One.

    I had a period during my teens when I battled an inferiority complex, along with anorexia, but I won.
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

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