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    Inferiority complex surrounding asserting oneself or asserting ones' dominance over others. The individual extremely dislikes overly aggressive people but cannot voice any opinion concerning aggressive people due to fear of being a new target for others' assertive nature. Fears being criticized for lack of self-assertion, as this is perceived as one's main flaw as an individual, aggressive, domineering nature seen as somewhat evil and patronizing (yet also somewhat perceived as admirable with a twinge of envy). Intolerant of conflict, disliking to take place in any conflict due not because it disturbs the peace but because one cannot take a strong stance against another without ultimately losing somehow. Wants badly to self-assert themselves, but any attempts at doing so ultimately fail, always.

    This one is difficult too. Sorry...nothing is easy with me.

    I don't dislike aggressive people unless they're trying to sell me something. They are sort of amusing really...I like to sit back and watch (when possible) because they are so different from me...and I try to figure them out.
    BUT, maybe when it's more personal and I'm directly involved, I dislike them. When they're trying to force me to do something I don't want to do.
    I don't like conflict (but hate to admit that it's sometimes interesting to watch from afar particularly between two aggressive people), but I will speak up if need be.

    I like peace. I normally dislike conflict. Part of the problem is I can often see all sides POVs...and try to find ways to compromise. If an aggressive person is pressuring me, I've been known to "agree" to what they want (to get them off my back) and then do what I want once they go away from me.

    Wait you needed a number...maybe 3? I just don't know. I hate numbers...they're so solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazelsees View Post

    If an aggressive person is pressuring me, I've been known to "agree" to what they want (to get them off my back) and then do what I want once they go away from me.
    I've been thinking about this and it's not really true except in the very small and unimportant "conflicts" when I don't want to waste my energy (and energy conservation is BIG to me). I remembered some things about myself. I've been held down by two people and beaten up by another because I refused to apologize for something I didn't do. It would have been easier to just say "sorry" to end it...but an overwhelming angry, outraged, and numb feeling comes over me in situations like this. And things like this have happened more than once to me (and to others who were with me), although that was the most extreme.
    @yeghor. maybe this has nothing to do with what you're asking and may just be my stubbornness.

    Sorry...I'm really not much help, and honestly I still don't exactly understand what you're doing/working on. I saw your new thread and I'll try to help there later, but I'm afraid I won't be much help at all after glancing at the topic and a few of the posts.

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    5 20 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
    4 16 I must be unique/different to survive.
    7 14 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
    8 13 I must be strong and in control to survive.
    1 11 I must be perfect and good to survive.
    6 10 I must be secure and safe to survive.
    9 10 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
    3 8 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
    2 6 I must be helpful and caring to survive.

    Your main type is Type 5
    Your variant stacking is sp/sx/so
    Your level of health is very low, i.e. very unhealthy

    Your Sociotype: ILI-2Ni (INTp)

    LII (INTj): 87% as likely as ILI.
    LIE (ENTj): 83% as likely as ILI.
    IEI (INFp): 78% as likely as ILI.
    infj 4w5 sx/so.

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    Some highlights:

    • EIIs who relate strongly to Se PoLR description (i.e. PoLR Se > 2/5) seem to score relatively (about 25%) lower in enneagram 8 than other EIIs...which may point to Se-inferior and that enneagram 8 correlates with Se...
    • EIIs who relate strongly to Se PoLR description (i.e. PoLR Se > 2/5) seem to score relatively (about 15%) higher in enneagram 2 than other EIIs...which may point to having to give preference to Fe (i.e. cooperation and negotiation) due to lack of confidence in confrontational skills (i.e. enneagram 8 and Se), and that enneagram 2 correlates with Fe...
    • EIIs who relate strongly to Se PoLR description (i.e. PoLR Se > 2/5) unexpectedly seem to score relatively (about 20%) lower in enneagram 9 and 1 than other EIIs as well as IEIs...?
    • IEIs seem to have a relatively (about 20%) higher preference for enneagram 4, 5 and 6 than EIIs...?

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    Sorry. I know this is super super late lol.


    The Enneagram is a personality system which divides the entire human personality into nine behavioral tendencies, this is your score on each...

    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||| 54%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||| 38%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||||| 26%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||| 58%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||| 38%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||| 18%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||| 14%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||||||| 82%

    type score type behavior motivation
    9 20 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
    4 14 I must be unique/different to survive.
    1 13 I must be perfect and good to survive.
    6 11 I must be secure and safe to survive.
    2 9 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
    5 9 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
    3 6 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
    7 4 I must be fun and entertained to survive.
    8 3 I must be strong and in control to survive.

    Your main type is Type 9
    Your variant stacking is spsosx
    Your level of health is very high

    Your main type is which ever behavior you utilize most and/or prefer. Your variant reflects your scoring profile on all nine types: so = social variant (compliant, friendly), sx = sexual variant (assertive, intense), sp = self preservation variant (withdrawn, security seeking). For info on the flaws of the Enneagram system click here.

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    Since this was necromanced.

    Per tagging: I don't really relate to the Se PoLR description. Maybe when I was in adolescence but I grew out of it. 1/5 for good measure?
    [ 4(69) "The Seeker"; IEI-2Ni (INFp) ]


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    Meh. I say that Enneatypes are more or less evenly distributed among all MBTIs, but some E-types are more similar to certain MBTIs than others, so this makes both of them harder to identify in an individual with disparity between MBTI and E-type. For example, you’d expect an ESTJ to be an 8, 1, or possibly 6, but an ESTJ 4 could also exist even though that’s never what you’d expect, and this would make the 4 and the ESTJ in this individual both twice as hard to identify, so he’d most likely mistype in both systems.
    I have a teacher who’s basically a real friendly people person and she’s a Sanguine, but she’s also ENTJ. I have an ESTP guitar teacher whom I think is 9w1 or 1w9. You’d never expect one person to be ESTP and 9, but he seems to have the core repulsion from anger of the 9 and the same basic style of perceiving and acting in the world as an ESTP, so that’s what he is.
    This, combined with oddball cognitive function stackings like those Te-Fi or Se-Si or Ni-Ti people, could be why most people don’t fit exactly into MBTI and the system is not officially trusted.

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    http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/history.asp

    Virtue (Maturity?) of each type:



    Vice of each type:



    Desired goal of each type:



    Under Stress behaviour of each type:


  10. #110
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    @yeghor You were right, along with a bunch of other people. I'm not an INFJ. Thank you for your contributions like this thread.

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