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    Ayayayayayayayayay!!!

    Please do some research on empathy, dissonance, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Do you need Ti or Te to determine whether things are true or false?
    I mean like if somehow Ti or Te didn't exist then would people be unable to determine the truth?

    I strongly value truth/knowing the truth so I'm pretty in tune with it but I have no idea if that's becuase I have strong Ti or Te or whatever.
    Both regard logic, because they are both T. What E and I distinguish is that they are two different applications of logic. One concerns external circumstances, and the other concerns internally developed concepts.

    If neither Te nor Ti existed, then I suppose people wouldn't understand that 2 + 2 = 4, and so on. However, I think a literal absence of this functions would prevent humans from even functioning. Even the most seemingly irrational people operate on a wee bit of T.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post

    yes, i ALWAYS want to do something about it. if nothing can be done about it, why bother? (this is analogous to a Te user not caring about truth unless it's implementable or visible.)
    LOL, because everything is meant to be felt, experienced and processed for its own sake and what we can learn from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    LOL, because everything is meant to be felt, experienced and processed for its own sake and what we can learn from it.
    Yes, indeedy!!
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    What is the difference between sympathy and empathy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    What is the difference between sympathy and empathy?
    Great question, one can sympathize with another's situation without necessarily understanding themselves what enduring that kind of situation would or does feel like.

    When one empathizes with someone else, one can either directly feel what that person is going through or imagine how that person must feel given that person's life history or specific circumstances.
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    Self-awareness and empathy, ironically, go hand-in-hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    Fes tend to find Fi disturbing because they expect values and motivations of people to derive from the outside.
    This matches my experience. Lately I've found it easier to distinguish between types on this function alone; Fe impels proper behavior, Fi compels strange rituals. Like interactions are mutually understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Self-awareness and empathy, ironically, go hand-in-hand.
    Where is the irony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Ayayayayayayayayay!!!

    Please do some research on empathy, dissonance, please.
    what is it that you think i'm not understanding about empathy?

    what would you infer my definition of empathy is?

    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    LOL, because everything is meant to be felt, experienced and processed for its own sake and what we can learn from it.

    "Whoever flees pain will love no more. To love is always to feel the opening, to hold wound always open." Novalis
    i think feeling is pointless for it's own sake. i agree that one should process his or her feelings, but only for the goal of long-term happiness.

    if there was a hypothetical feeling that wouldn't make you feel better in the long term by processing it, then you shouldn't. right?

    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    Fe impels proper behavior, Fi compels strange rituals.
    ah, what a good way to put it.

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