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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Yes, I like Ti for this, especially when used with a tiny touch of tact. The Te tendency is to tell an error. The Ti tendency is to show it.
    I agree. But that may still not be enough...too much criticism turn on the tears...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    Also, NTP humor (so long as that NTP doesn't have a chip on their shoulder, making "jokes" that actually purge contempt) can stop me from drowning in my own gravitas.
    In truth, I find the chip-on-the-shoulder humour more interesting and useful, at least for INTPs, who tend to turn on satire to denounce what they consider to be falsehood.
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    So women are drawn to INTPs because they're a calming influence, humorous, big on independence and they have that brooding, deep-thinking façade?

    What about the other nastier tendencies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUBUS View Post
    In truth, I find the chip-on-the-shoulder humour more interesting and useful, at least for INTPs, who tend to turn on satire to denounce what they consider to be falsehood.

    Well "chip on the shoulder" is relative. I've said before that I think Ti'ers can have a tendency to caricature-ize things and exaggerate the ugly/illogical parts as way of explaining what they think is wrong with something: this seems to drive Te crazy, the indirectness of it- yet I find it a helpful way to express frustration. When it's done well it effectively communicates the source of frustration while causing laughter. That isn't what I'm talking about, and I personally find that helpful myself. I'm talking about when a person consistently dishes out more than they can take, and/or they dish out so much at inappropriate moments (it's clearly stronger than the moment calls for) that's it's really more about them having contempt for everyone than simply feeling frustrated in that moment by the thing they're making fun of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUBUS View Post
    So women are drawn to INTPs because they're a calming influence, humorous, big on independence and they have that brooding, deep-thinking façade?

    What about the other nastier tendencies?
    The only types I see consistently drawn to INTPs are ENFPs and INFJs. Maybe ISFJs. And the reason they give is that they are fascinated by that "big brain" we supposedly have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUBUS View Post
    So women are drawn to INTPs because they're a calming influence, humorous, big on independence and they have that brooding, deep-thinking façade?

    What about the other nastier tendencies?
    The nastier tendencies are what has kept me from pursuing a relationship with the ones I have been attracted to. I don't know if this is typical, but my friend purposefully ignores problems, even if they are his own and psychological in nature. He doesn't deal with is emotions until they have built to the point of being unbearable. Both of these situations usually lead to a lot of alcohol as a coping mechanism. I realize this is probably not typical. But, I think I read somewhere that INTPs were most disposed to alcohol abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showbread View Post
    The nastier tendencies are what has kept me from pursuing a relationship with the ones I have been attracted to. I don't know if this is typical, but my friend purposefully ignores problems, even if they are his own and psychological in nature. He doesn't deal with is emotions until they have built to the point of being unbearable. Both of these situations usually lead to a lot of alcohol as a coping mechanism. I realize this is probably not typical. But, I think I read somewhere that INTPs were most disposed to alcohol abuse.
    Would be interesting to read up on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUBUS View Post
    I agree. But that may still not be enough...too much criticism turn on the tears...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUBUS View Post
    So women are drawn to INTPs because they're a calming influence, humorous, big on independence and they have that brooding, deep-thinking façade?

    What about the other nastier tendencies?
    I'm drawn to my husband, who happens to be an INTP, because he is funny, smart, and he is a good man. He treats everyone with courtesy, he's honest, he works hard, he is considerate of me. I've never met another human being I respect and admire more than I do him.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I'm drawn to my husband, who happens to be an INTP, because he is funny, smart, and he is a good man. He treats everyone with courtesy, he's honest, he works hard, he is considerate of me. I've never met another human being I respect and admire more than I do him.
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