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    Ok, I took the liberty of attempting to revise the list as I see it. Accurate/better, ENFP's? @LUBUS, would you agree with these?

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    ENFJ

    1- More able to clearly identify and pursue a life-long project.

    2- Orchestrates / minds what is said, so as to not damage other people's pride / vanity / self-esteem / feelings.

    3- When looking out for solutions, prefers one that is most convenient and simple to all envolved.

    4- Very likely to observe social regulations and traditions without too much thought on overhauling or questioning them.

    5- Less prone to acting without consultation or thinking about long-term consequences, especially when it concerns people.

    6- More interested and more energized by being in a long-term, harmonious relationship (romantic and non-romantic alike).



    ENFP

    1- More difficulty in defining their lifetime goals, let alone pursuing them...in truth, prefers the thought of the being free to do so without constraints.

    2- Tends to communicate with «no filter», meaning that, although sensitive, they may unwittingly hurt people when enthusiastically pursuing attractive ideas / lines of thought.

    3-Prefers to look for unique solutions, no matter how erratically, and much prefers to leave their implementing to others.

    4-Much less willing to compromise / be obliged by social regulations and conventions if their visions and feelings are at stake.

    5-Prone to acting without consultation and with little regard to long-term consequences...likely to be caught with pants down again and again...usually apologizes profusely afterwards, but may struggle to keep resolution.

    6-Prefers to explore in relationships, often prefers the spark of the new ones to the steadfastness of old ones...easily bored.
    ENFJ
    1 Goals tend to be specific and driven by external problems which the ENFJ can help solve. Long range planner, with short and long term goals and steps to achieve them. Focused on interpersonal dynamics.

    2 Views communication as a tool for interpersonal harmony. May say what they think the other person needs or wants to hear, driven by outcomes.

    3 When looking for solutions sees the happiness and convenience of all involved as first priority, but may focus on the group at the expense of the individuals.

    4 Sees social regulations and traditions as tools to use for the achievement of goals; likely will have own ideas of what they should be to achieve their view of social justice.

    5 Uses assessment of long term consequences for people and outside consultation in the planning process and implements when a clear plan is achieved. Highly effective in unifying goals and visions into a workable outcome, adept at balancing many projects and goals at once.

    6 *I have actually not found ENFJ's to be monogamous or focused. All three of the ENFJ's I've met have been rather promiscuous.*
    In intimate relationships:
    If monogamous: enjoys commitment, mutual devotion and each person meeting the needs of the other and enhancing their life.
    If non-monogamous: enjoys balancing multiple relationships at once, short term encounters, flirtation, and the excitement of exploring different interaction patterns.

    ENFP
    1 Goals tend to be more general and personally driven, motivated by a sense of inner harmony, adventure, productivity, and creating and maintaining personal connections with people. Project oriented.

    2 Views communication as a mode for expression of inner states. Seeks to connect their inner state with that of another. Genuine and sensitive, but may simply trust that the other person's reaction is their own responsibility.

    3 When looking for solutions focuses on practicality in outcome, but values each person seeking their own best interest in the problem solving process. Clever and ingenious in finding creative ideas.

    4 Sees social regulations and traditions as summation of popular preference; as such feels free to follow own personal preference when appropriate. Believes in freedom and individual well-being.

    5 Projects are personally driven; often works with others who have similar personally driven goals, projects, visions, and passions, to collectively achieve goals. Improvises and plans as she goes along, adept at adapting to change.

    6. In relationships:
    If monogamous: enjoys a deep soul connection. May be serially monogamous. Enjoys sharing novel experiences with a partner. Very devoted and loyal if connection is present.
    If non-monogamous: enjoys the thrill of spontaneous encounters. Truly loves the person they are with, but equally loves adventure.

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    I really like your list @greenfairy!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esoteric Wench View Post
    I really like your list @greenfairy!!!!!!

    Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    Wow, OP. That was... balanced.
    In what way, may I ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Oh...and welcome to TypeC
    Thank you very much.
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    My, what a reaction...I wonder why I don't get anything like this for my other typology posts here...

    As the title says, these are notes, notes I've scribbled down some months ago and stashed them away in a drawer, only to get them out on here one random day ... as the name implies, they are preliminary in nature, and so, they're meant to criticized and improved...I hope most here have understood that.

    I guess some people would call this an «outburst» of sorts ... but they most of the posts point to my supposed bias towards ENFJs / Fe-types at the expense of the ENFPs...I agree that the tone of the sentences makes it seem that way...but I also think that the impersonal message is there as well...and that message can coloured positive or negative.

    My thread was not meant to hurt, offend, satirize, tease (...) the ENFPs ... if you want to know, I have known some people who are likely ENFJs and ENFPs...and both have provided me with very good company and inspiration. I did not really factor the possible emotional impact of the tone of the ENFJ vs. ENFP points...I suppose I might have had someone in mind when rambling on the ENFPs...

    I would post an explanation of those 6 points, but it seems that @greenfairy has beat me to it...I think it is a good job, written in a more 'suitable' / neutral tone...and it is arguably richer in content...though I confess I'm not too keen on those polysyllables...

    By the way, I'm typed as an INTP ...which would make me more likely to defend a Ne-type than an Fe-type ...unless you believe I have a great unconscious desire to reconcile myself with my long lost Fe ...perhaps...also the very one that makes 'forget' to factor the emotional impact of my deeds and words.

    Thank you all for your feedback.

    I see that we are all quite learned on ENFP / ENFJ matters...I have another note slip on the INFJs and INFPs ...but I'm now having second thoughts on posting that one...let alone the INTP vs. INTJ one.
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    Actually, I hope you do. Should be a good read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUBUS View Post
    [...]

    I see that we are all quite learned on ENFP / ENFJ matters...I have another note slip on the INFJs and INFPs ...but I'm now having second thoughts on posting that one...let alone the INTP vs. INTJ one.



    Seriously, though. I did think the response to your post was somewhat harsh. I assumed you made your ENFJ list first, and then made the ENFP list by contrast.... which made it seem less balanced than you likely intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour View Post
    Seriously, though. I did think the response to your post was somewhat harsh. I assumed you made your ENFJ list first, and then made the ENFP list by contrast.... which made it seem less balanced than you likely intended.
    No, I didn't do it in linear fashion...it was quite all over the place, as usual...the Ne acting up, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUBUS View Post
    My, what a reaction...I wonder why I don't get anything like this for my other typology posts here...

    As the title says, these are notes, notes I've scribbled down some months ago and stashed them away in a drawer, only to get them out on here one random day ... as the name implies, they are preliminary in nature, and so, they're meant to criticized and improved...I hope most here have understood that.

    I guess some people would call this an «outburst» of sorts ... but they most of the posts point to my supposed bias towards ENFJs / Fe-types at the expense of the ENFPs...I agree that the tone of the sentences makes it seem that way...but I also think that the impersonal message is there as well...and that message can coloured positive or negative.

    My thread was not meant to hurt, offend, satirize, tease (...) the ENFPs ... if you want to know, I have known some people who are likely ENFJs and ENFPs...and both have provided me with very good company and inspiration. I did not really factor the possible emotional impact of the tone of the ENFJ vs. ENFP points...I suppose I might have had someone in mind when rambling on the ENFPs...

    I would post an explanation of those 6 points, but it seems that @greenfairy has beat me to it...I think it is a good job, written in a more 'suitable' / neutral tone...and it is arguably richer in content...though I confess I'm not too keen on those polysyllables...

    By the way, I'm typed as an INTP ...which would make me more likely to defend a Ne-type than an Fe-type ...unless you believe I have a great unconscious desire to reconcile myself with my long lost Fe ...perhaps...also the very one that makes 'forget' to factor the emotional impact of my deeds and words.

    Thank you all for your feedback.

    I see that we are all quite learned on ENFP / ENFJ matters...I have another note slip on the INFJs and INFPs ...but I'm now having second thoughts on posting that one...let alone the INTP vs. INTJ one.
    Haha the enfps are a bit feisty and don't keep much to ourselves. We're not actually hurt or upset or anything just kinda saying ummm fix this shit yo.

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