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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    I think this may actually be more indicative of being a sexual instinct. I was going to say a feeling type, but I'm certain thinking types must crave this, too. I'm sure someone here would probably know better than I would. But this isn't the pervading school of thought, is it? That sensors detest meaningful relationships?
    That might make sense. I think the one instinctual variant test I took told me I was a sx/sp or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    No I've never thought that but I think you might hear an intuitive say that and mean that they want their partner to understand them in ways others do not. Often being an intuitive can make you feel like you're not speaking the same language as everyone else so there's a deeper connection felt when someone actually gets it or you.

    Know what I mean?
    I have heard people say this and thought to myself your actually not all that deep. I personally think that a lot of people tend to think they're super deep as a means of putting they're differences or perceptions above others. I'm not saying this holds true in your case but all to often I come on this forum and it almost seems to me that quite a few people are on here to try and prove something.

    In my opinion there are two different kinds of depth, one that comes from experience which builds charictor and wisdom and the other which unfortunately most often destroys it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_priori View Post
    I have heard people say this and thought to myself your actually not all that deep. I personally think that a lot of people tend to think they're super deep as a means of putting they're differences or perceptions above others. I'm not saying this holds true in your case but all to often I come on this forum and it almost seems to me that quite a few people are on here to try and prove something.

    In my opinion there are two different kinds of depth, one that comes from experience which builds charictor and wisdom and the other which unfortunately most often destroys it.
    just to clarify...i didn't say anything about being deep.

    i said there's a deeper connection felt when one gets you in ways the majority of others do not.

    can you feel the difference in that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    just to clarify...i didn't say anything about being deep.

    i said there's a deeper connection felt when one gets you in ways the majority of others do not.

    can you feel the difference in that?
    It's taken me a long journey to realize I am a sensor.

    I think what you describe, a desire for a deeper connection that you rarely attain, when someone 'gets' you, is human. I think intuitives like to chalk it up to intuitiveness, the inability to connect deeply and often with others, but I think it impacts everyone. Sensors can feel this disconnect just as keenly. I can tell you I've felt disconnected from most for most of my life; but, I don't think it's due to my being s, or n, or j, or p, or whatnot, I think this is something that ties into other elements of my psychae, and I think holding onto this idea of not connecting often with others may in fact exacerbate the tendency not to connect. It's like self-fulfilling sometimes.

    Now it may be we each have different ways to connect, and to feel understood, but this feeling of not feeling understood by others is not an n/s thing. (also, I know from little side comments throughout the years that my istj mother has struggled with the same)

    I think there are people though who don't place as much importance on this deep 'connection' and 'understanding' -- but I'm not sure that trait either falls on the n/s divide.
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    yeah for sure.

    wasn't trying to say it was an s/n thing. i was saying you might hear an intuitive say that for that reason...not that i personally think that.

    i think there are a lot of ways people can connect....and i know that sensors can feel unseen or misunderstood too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    yeah for sure.

    wasn't trying to say it was an s/n thing. i was saying you might hear an intuitive say that for that reason...not that i personally think that.

    i think there are a lot of ways people can connect....and i know that sensors can feel unseen or misunderstood too.
    Hypothetically speaking, what If someone was to prove to you there is no such thing as being S or N? Would you be in disbelief?

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    All I know is when I'm around other Ni's I am way more at ease. Must be a security thing with my e6 ness...but I feel like I can be more myself because we speak the same language or something and not everything is going to be twisted or taken literally. Its relieving. When I talk about my everyday "up in the clouds" stuff...Se shuts down. "Shrugs" maybe I have not talked to enough sensors that have meditated though. Idk .

    When I'm just laying down thinking about random shit for a while..it takes other people drugs and meditation to get where I'm at. So when I actually meditate.... I sound way out there I think.

    All that being said...i still love me some sensors though ha ha.

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    Firstly: I'm super impressed with the OP's self-awareness. Something for all of us to strive for, really.

    Secondly: I agree with everybody who's said it has more to do with getting to know someone deeply. Everyone is complex and everyone has hidden depths.* The bias, I think, comes from the fact that a concrete focus can disguise those inner depths to the point that other people don't realize they exist. This is coming from someone who is very frequently judged that way -- especially when those inner depths are associated (in my case) with vulnerability, which isn't the most fun thing ever.

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    I've been told by a few people IRL that I'm "deep" and it's always baffled me...isn't everyone deep? Humans are such wonderfully complex creatures. It's just that not everyone bothers to go past the superficial layers. But there's always something under there, if you actually look for it. Many people don't, I've found.

    Of course, maybe everyone else only seems deep to me because I'm just a simple sensor.
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    @Susah

    I have found ISXPs to be very deep, actually, in a formidable way. It's the Ni tertiary that is still grounded in reality (Se), that makes for an epic combination. Their vision far surpasses mine, in a lot of ways (and I'm an "N"). My ISFP friend is hilarious, artistic and quixotic. She's very grounded, too. It makes her relatable, whereas INFPs, sometimes are so far "away", that tethering them back to a shared reality is a Sisyphean effort.


    I have very deep friendships with S, SJs. There's merit to having conversations where your theory is met with a practical perspective. And my ESFJ best friend finds it amusing to let me go on my ridiculous flights of fancy, and engages her tertiary Ne with mine. It's a wonderful, playful thing.

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    I think the subject of "deepness"is one that is more intimately tied to the instincts (like having SX) than s or n. One of my best friends from this site is an ISTP so/sx guy. Having the shared SX-ness means that we both have a desire for a relationship that is built around bonding and sharing with the other. It doesn't matter that I may talk about more "abstract" flights of fancy things or that he shares with me something "concrete" like something he built for his house. What matters is that we care about each other and respect each other and enjoy learning about each other. On the flipside, I have encountered many N's on here who have the SO/SP combo and I always end up feeling like we aren't *quite* connecting even though it "seems" like we should. This is not necessarily a bad thing in any way, it just is a different way of operating. I have to remind myself to not take it personally.

    I think the N-bias is an unfortunate aspect of these sites and I wish it would go away. It is a great disservice to dismiss so much of humanity based on a silly little letter.

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