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[Other] What is the absolute answer to everything?

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I think you are flogging a dead horse. No matter how much you may hanker for the return of the beast, the beast is dead and buried.

But this longing for the return of the beast is expressed in the love of Carl Jung who loved the Fuhrer and took his orders from Reichmarshall Goering.

Jung was a Nazi, too?
 
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ndovjtjcaqidthi

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I think you are flogging a dead horse. No matter how much you may hanker for the return of the beast, the beast is dead and buried.

But this longing for the return of the beast is expressed in the love of Carl Jung who loved the Fuhrer and took his orders from Reichmarshall Goering.

Jung wasn't even a Nazi sympathizer.

Jung's interest in European mythology and folk psychology has led to accusations of Nazi sympathies, since they shared the same interest.[69][70][71] He became, however, aware of the negative impact of these similarities:


Jung clearly identifies himself with the spirit of German Volkstumsbewegung throughout this period and well into the 1920s and 1930s, until the horrors of Nazism finally compelled him to reframe these neopagan metaphors in a negative light in his 1936 essay on Wotan.[72]

There are writings showing that Jung's sympathies were against, rather than for, Nazism.[c] In his 1936 essay "Wotan", Jung described Germany as "infected" by "one man who is obviously 'possessed' ...", and as "rolling towards perdition",[73] and wrote


... what a so-called Führer does with a mass movement can plainly be seen if we turn our eyes to the north or south of our country."[74]

Jung would later say that:


Hitler seemed like the 'double' of a real person, as if Hitler the man might be hiding inside like an appendix, and deliberately so concealed in order not to disturb the mechanism ... You know you could never talk to this man; because there is nobody there ... It is not an individual; it is an entire nation.[75]

In an interview with Carol Baumann in 1948, Jung denied rumors regarding any sympathy for the Nazi movement, saying:


It must be clear to anyone who has read any of my books that I have never been a Nazi sympathizer and I never have been anti-Semitic, and no amount of misquotation, mistranslation, or rearrangement of what I have written can alter the record of my true point of view. Nearly every one of these passages has been tampered with, either by malice or by ignorance. Furthermore, my friendly relations with a large group of Jewish colleagues and patients over a period of many years in itself disproves the charge of anti-Semitism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung#Response_to_Nazism
 

Mole

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Jung was a Nazi, too?

Carl Jung never joined the Nazi Party but he worshipped the Fuhrer and took his orders as President of the German Psychoanalytic Association from Reichmarshall Goering.

And as President of the German Psychoanalytic Association Carl Jung ordered his German members to use Adolf Hitler's book, "Mein Kampf" (My Struggle) as their psychological reference book.

And the totalitiarian impulse finds its expression on Typology Central in the adulation of Carl Jung.

The National Socialists lost WW II so the totalitarian impulse must be sanitised into the admiration of Carl Jung.
 

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I think you are flogging a dead horse. No matter how much you may hanker for the return of the beast, the beast is dead and buried.

But this longing for the return of the beast is expressed in the love of Carl Jung who loved the Fuhrer and took his orders from Reichmarshall Goering.

Sometimes I really appreciate your lyricism, and other times is just becomes unrelatable.
 

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Jung wasn't even a Nazi sympathizer.

Of course when the National Socialialist lost Carl Jung denied his role as President of the German Psychoanalytic Association under Reichmarshall Goering.

Just as members of Typology Central deny their desire to reify living human beings with MBTI.

The reification of living human beings is the hallmark of the totalitarian impulse whether it is Nazism, Communism, Islamism or MBTI.
 
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ndovjtjcaqidthi

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I am delighted that those who love Carl Jung won't relate to me.

Says the guy who used to type himself as INFP.

Edit: [MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] as for your rep, I have no "Ill will" towards you, I just don't agree with what you're saying here.
 

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Says the guy who used to type himself as INFP.

Edit: [MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] as for your rep, I have no "Ill will" towards you, I just don't agree with what you're saying here.

C'mon you express your ill-will in your avatar where you shout unequivocally, "I Hate You".

You express bald-faced hatred and then you deny it.

So I have no alternative but to put you on Ignore.
 
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ndovjtjcaqidthi

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C'mon you express your ill-will in your avatar where you shout unequivocally, "I Hate You".

It's tongue-in-cheek.

So I have no alternative but to put you on Ignore.

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I am delighted that those who love Carl Jung won't relate to me.

IDK if you mean me? I think Jung had some interesting ideas but I don't know I'd say if I love him.

I just mean, sometimes I get lost with what you're saying. It seems like more connection and implication than actually impacts people, if you understand my meaning. Not that it's not present - I don't deny all the complex undercurrents of the world and overtones and nuances - but I'm not sure it's useful to equate believing in Christianity with supporting child abuse because those things don't connect in most people's minds, even though I do understand where you're getting that from. I think most people just don't look at things as deeply or interconnectedly as you do, which is not good in one way, but I think it can be hard to get from the message of what you're saying to what should realistically be done about it.
 
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I am delighted that those who love Carl Jung won't relate to me.

Is your type not "Mole"?

Is there any redemption in the study of the psyche and the underlying features that tie us each together?
 

Mole

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Is your type not "Mole"?

Is there any redemption in the study of the psyche and the underlying features that tie us each together?

Of course my type is Mole - I am Mole. Other types are the Water Rat, Toad and Badger. Far better to type yourself on Wind in the Willows than mbti.
 

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I'm not sure it's useful to equate believing in Christianity with supporting child abuse because those things don't connect in most people's minds.

If you read the History of Childhood you will discover that child sexual abuse has been hidden for many centuries.

And it is only now it is being brought out into the open and into our criminal courts with the Irish Judicial Enquiry into child abuse in 2007 and now the Australian Royal Commission into child abuse in 2013.

We are discovering day by day Christianity denied, hid and defamed those they sexually abused as children.

I know it is a shock for you to discover Christianity has facilitated child sexual abuse for centuries, but you are now no longer able to deny the findings of the highest courts in Ireland and Australia.
 

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I think it can be hard to get from the message of what you're saying to what should realistically be done about it.

If you would open your eyes, you would see what we are doing realistically.

We have opened a Royal Commission into child sexual abuse.

A Royal Commission has extensive powers and a budget to match.

At the same time our Police are actively pursuing child sexual abusers throughout the world and bringing them before our criminal courts.

The Roman Catholic Church alone has already been forced by the courts to pay out billions of dollars to their victims of child sexual abuse.

How come you know none of this?
 

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If it ends in my self-respect, then yes.
 

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Then the next best thing would be ultimate freedom so long as it does not interfere with others' freedom.
So what if the guy in the park wants to chew smokeless tobacco?

Consequentialist Libertarianism
 

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Cooperativism.

With God of course. Anything without God will fail.
 
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