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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    In discussing non-INTPs over at that other board, one poster commented that he found NFs kind of dull.

    I can see why this statement is made, some NFs will never do anything that rocks the boat or take a controversial position to avoid offending others.

    I don't agree with this, I find other aspects of NFs very interesting.

    But I wonder, do you view yourself as boring? Non-NFs, do you find NFs boring?
    Why do I get the feeling that this is a sideways ad hominem attack? Of what legitimate value is attacking a Type in the supposed serious discussion of MBTI? Wouldn't it be of more appropriate to say that ANY type can be boring depending upon their individual personality? Isn't it equally valid to say that what one person may find boring, might be exciting to another, and vice-versa. Maybe that's the way they are; There is nothing wrong with that. It's not a valid reason to attack and invalidate that person as a human being.

    Why is the fact that NFs may never do anything that rocks the boat or may never take a controversial position to avoid offending others boring? Maybe, from their perspective, it just is simply a case of they don't have time for that kind of excitement as they have things to do that are more important and by extension more exciting to them. Perhaps it needs to be considered that while their actions may be perceived by non-NFs as boring, NF themselves are not boring. Then again, maybe the shoe needs to be put on the other foot; Maybe NFs find non-NFs boring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdalek View Post
    Why do I get the feeling that this is a sideways ad hominem attack? Of what legitimate value is attacking a Type in the supposed serious discussion of MBTI? Wouldn't it be of more appropriate to say that ANY type can be boring depending upon their individual personality? Isn't it equally valid to say that what one person may find boring, might be exciting to another, and vice-versa. Maybe that's the way they are; There is nothing wrong with that. It's not a valid reason to attack and invalidate that person as a human being.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sdalek View Post
    Why is the fact that NFs may never do anything that rocks the boat or may never take a controversial position to avoid offending others boring? Maybe, from their perspective, it just is simply a case of they don't have time for that kind of excitement as they have things to do that are more important and by extension more exciting to them. Perhaps it needs to be considered that while their actions may be perceived by non-NFs as boring, NF themselves are not boring. Then again, maybe the shoe needs to be put on the other foot; Maybe NFs find non-NFs boring?
    So how does the NF communicate about things that are exciting to them? Do they withhold them, or are others unable to appreciate them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    So how does the NF communicate about things that are exciting to them? Do they withhold them, or are others unable to appreciate them?
    I don't know; They fart alot in interpretive dance?? (shame on me)

    The same way one communicates with others that share a common interest. I have observed that the most introvert of people can become very E when in a situation where they can discuss what they find exciting and interesting. The problem becomes who will be present to appreciate their enthusiasm when the situation arises. Perhaps their excitement is too subtle to be easily recognized by non-NFs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdalek View Post
    The same way one communicates with others that share a common interest. I have observed that the most introvert of people can become very E when in a situation where they can discuss what they find exciting and interesting. The problem becomes who will be present to appreciate their enthusiasm when the situation arises. Perhaps their excitement is too subtle to be easily recognized by non-NFs.
    Passion about something is pretty exciting, even if the subject is too esoteric for the audience. I'd think passion would go a long way in such circumstances, but I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Passion about something is pretty exciting, even if the subject is too esoteric for the audience. I'd think passion would go a long way in such circumstances, but I could be wrong.
    Think "Addams Family"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdalek View Post
    Think "Addams Family"
    The show or the movie or the New Yorker cartoon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    The show or the movie or the New Yorker cartoon?
    The show; It had more passion in it. The cartoons from New Yorker are much darker; still funny though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    IRL, people find me more weird than boring. Except my ESXP friend. She finds me boring, but I think it's because I don't like WWF .
    I'm always amazed at the spectrum of people that like WWF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darlets View Post
    I'm always amazed at the spectrum of people that like WWF.
    What??? You don't like the rumbling of the ring, the grunting of grown men grappling each other, the smell of testosterone wafting through your telly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdalek View Post
    What??? You don't like the rumbling of the ring, the grunting of grown men grappling each other, the smell of testosterone wafting through your telly?
    I have older brothers, I had enough real life wrestling and fighting growning up.
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