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    We INFPs seem to be stereotyped to be disorganized, unable to get things done, incapable of leading, etc. because of our 'lack of Te'. True, it is our fourth function, but out of eight. Personally, lack of Te is not my weakest point. I think my Te is fairly developed. Do any other INFPs relate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    We INFPs seem to be stereotyped to be disorganized, unable to get things done, incapable of leading, etc. because of our 'lack of Te'. True, it is our fourth function, but out of eight. Personally, lack of Te is not my weakest point. I think my Te is fairly developed. Do any other INFPs relate?
    Hello Abbey! Nice to meet you, we haven't crossed paths before I don't think!

    As far as Te proficiency, I think it's useful to always keep in mind that our use of Te is aspirational. Te use comes at a high energy cost on an INFP, and sustained use sacrifices nuance of the functions that precede it. Sustained Te use can also lead to huge life imbalance for us, even burnout.

    I'm likely in the top 3 of the most Te'ish INFP's on this site atm - I run a company, I renovated our house! Yet, despite my advocacy of Te, that's my perspective - be careful. It's good to have some confidence in your use of Te, just don't think you rock at it. You don't. You can get shit done, yes, but just keep the balance in play by relying more on your dom and aux. I can be a very effective task-master, I just need to use it for shorter bursts, allow distraction and variety, and most important, recharge.

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    My INFP boyfriend rocks wth his Te! You can see it more often than not when he is in the kitchen because he is a chef. He describes these moments as if it's a creative dance - going here to there, doing this and this in a precise order....while rotating, preparing and cooking everything. He executes everything in a certain sequence, consciosuly aware of what is done and what needs to be done. He is very organized and you can tell when his Ne is expressed by his Te. He always like to write out his ideas by lists, but then by the time he creates, the "idea" may turn out completely different! :-) you can also see his Ne + Te in use when it comes to decorating and organizing the house. I look like the most disorganized mess compare to him! Ha!

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    In the past people (though always online) have claimed that I have developed Te. I find it inconsistent - sometimes it works well and other times not so much. I think it is linked or at least correlates with procrastination - I can use it fine for tasks I have no love for but when it comes to tasks e.g. making something of my life I find only dead ends!

    One of the function theories (I forget which one) claims that the dominant and inferior function are the most important functions for a type. Fi and Te have a very complex relationship (I personally see them as two parts of the same hypothetical entity) where Fi value systems are fundamentally constructed using fragments of known Te empirical data as logic gates and building blocks for intuition and feeling to utilise and make connections between (with Fi determining whether it is comfortable with accepting this data or not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    One of the function theories (I forget which one) claims that the dominant and inferior function are the most important functions for a type. Fi and Te have a very complex relationship (I personally see them as two parts of the same hypothetical entity) where Fi value systems are fundamentally constructed using fragments of known Te empirical data as logic gates and building blocks for intuition and feeling to utilise and make connections between (with Fi determining whether it is comfortable with accepting this data or not).
    i totally see what you mean because i also feel the same about my Ne-Si functions. i have them both and yes,they are in balance with each other, they are co-dependent (and si is stronger in me then i'd like to imagine): for instance, my Ne pushes me to try new situations, change jobs often, change citycountry often, but i also "suffer" from my si, that urges me to stay in one place and urges for familiarity. i'm more dependent on my environment and people than i'd like to admit. in the last years i've experienced anxiety which i think is related to this.

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    I can do Te but it is tiring and clumsy, esp if it involves other people. Much better in my own personal life where I don't have to be so concerned about other people's feelings.
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    Hi, ISFP here with a pretty good Te, which has helped me get through college and excel at my job. I work as a lab tech and you have to be able to follow procedures and be rather organized. I look at Te development as being integral to who I am, as I absolutely love the sciences and have always felt this tug and pull between doing art or doing science for a living. I settled for a pretty practical job, but at least I get time to pursue all of my hobbies, including art, on my time off

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    lol I don't really associate "lack of Te" with being unable to organize, insomuch as it's archaic and uncompromising nature over concrete factuality, and a need for everything to have some sort of use. While at the same time generally having some difficulty really letting go of their main perspective because what the most pragmatic thing to do goes against what they find to be agreeable. They also seem to find themselves in situations where they simply can't affect the world, and so they become depressed over it. Thinking is generally about learning how to be pragmatic and compromising desires. Not being poor at organization. The Fe dom also has the same issues, but they would sell themselves out, because they think they are stupid rather than being more rigid like the Fi dom.

    Feeling doms are also complete assholes whenever they disagree with how you define something though. God damn.
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    I am an INFP, yet I have a sharp Sensor-like way of approaching my work whereby I do it in an organized, systematic way and take care of the details (however I hate details). I also lead a violence-against-women initiative in which I coordinate a team of about 10 volunteers in various ways, such as advocacy, writing and chapter-building. Since joining my previous workplace as a reporter, I have gained considerable skills, particularly in the areas of work management, time management, attending to details as well as increasing my extroverted feeling and interacting with people in a way that respects their customs (no matter if I disagree with these customs). I am competent as hell.

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    What it means to be "bad at Te" (aka, "inferior") depends on who you ask. Popular stereotypes give us the following:
    - bad at logic
    - chronically disorganized
    - dogmatic about unrealistic beliefs

    The researcher Naomi Quenk lists the following as markers:
    - Judgments of incompetence
    - Aggressive criticism
    - Precipitous action

    Jung's work itself only references Fi types as thinking they know what others are thinking and becoming hostile.


    The sole reason I don't type exclusively as an IxFP is precisely for this reason--I fail to see this as being a weak point with me (both according to clinically observed phenomena relating to Te-inf, as well as stereotypes thereof).

    I wouldn't say I'm "great" at Te, either--I'm disorganized (as in, messy), I can be outrageously lazy, my desire to do "what I feel like" often supercedes what I've planned doing today. I can certainly lob criticisms at people and live in more or less a state of open warfare with the world (though this is such a facet of my personality that I've more or less been on an inferior loop since I hit puberty). Beyond this, nothing.

    In terms of actually getting stuff done, though, I am adequate--I get everything done that needs it; I respect deadlines. I have managed large projects that involved organizing others and resources, which we have gotten done before the deadline. I can run my classroom in a consistent (and probably scary-authoritarian) way. I care about reality and often try to plan my actions in a remotely strategic manner. If I have a big enough idea, I can generally bring it to fruition (heading Latin Club projects, moving to other countries, learning a foreign language, etc). I can make things work. My family actually sees me as "practical", and my teachers thought I was "efficient".

    It's not really a problem for me beyond the daily laziness I have demonstrated above. (Keep in mind, I'm open to the possibility of not being an IFP, but I do fit the profile of Fi-dom).

    It's important to remember, IFPs still use Te, it's just more of a subconscious process and works to support Fi (when Fi is balanced and not overriding it). No reason they can't be "good" at it; it's just never going to be the dominant view of life and will always be subordinated to other interests.

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