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    Even though I was typed as INFP by several users, I still play with the idea, that I might be an INFJ actually. Mostly because everytime I take the cognitive functions test I score on Ni as my highest function and I relate to Ni description very well, also I use a lot of Ti, while I can't see myself much in Te description. The problem is I behave and think as a typical perceiver. So what now? I relate to INFJ functions, but not to the descrption of extroverted judger. Can an INFJ look like "P" type? Can an Fi look so much like Ni and Ne can behave so much like Ti?

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    one thing i have noticed is that infjs are quite good at typing themselves. one seldom sees an infj change one's self typing to some other type. this includes to the enneagrams too. however they might change the instinctual variant typing though. that observation leads me to believe that you might be not an infj. however that is a weak method to reach a conclusion. besides you do have a unique enneagram type. 4w3s are rare.

    so - well - i basically wasn't much help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    Even though I was typed as INFP by several users, I still play with the idea, that I might be an INFJ actually. Mostly because everytime I take the cognitive functions test I score on Ni as my highest function and I relate to Ni description very well, also I use a lot of Ti, while I can't see myself much in Te description. The problem is I behave and think as a typical perceiver. So what now? I relate to INFJ functions, but not to the descrption of extroverted judger. Can an INFJ look like "P" type? Can an Fi look so much like Ni and Ne can behave so much like Ti?
    I also score high Ni. I consider myself an INFP, no doubt there. Something you may want to look at is Fe vs. Fi. This to me is the best way to determine INFP vs. INFJ. They manifest quite distinctly, imo.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age. " - H.P. Lovecraft

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    Would anyone help me with my functions? Are they really Fi+Ne+Si+Te? Or what if I use other functions... Ni/Ne is my biggest doubt, I made the video that might help. Also feel free to say if you think I am not an NF type.

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    oh and... I am adding my cognitive functions test results...I know I can't try to type myself just based on test, but I also fail to get the real order of my functions by my own self.
    extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************* (19.2)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ********************* (21.1)
    limited use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************* (37.4)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ****************************************** (42.4)
    excellent use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************** (22.1)
    limited use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ***************************** (29.3)
    average use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************** (26.4)
    average use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ****************************************** (42.3)
    excellent use

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    I haven't watched your video but I can say you don't seem like an INFP to me. Have you read this? It might be helpful-


    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...MBTI-Functions

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    I haven't watched your video but I can say you don't seem like an INFP to me. Have you read this? It might be helpful-


    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...MBTI-Functions
    Oh...I read these things before, the problem is I can relate to every function here and there, but it's hard to say which ones are dominant and which ones I don't use... I can relate to some Fi here there to some Fe here and there, to some Ne and to some Ni and could just continue naming the functions. That's why I asked for help to understand my functions, so it wouldn't be such a mess for me. Can I ask you why I don't seem like INFP to you?

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    On that Grunge thread you just seemed really extroverted to me, that's all. More EXFP. I guess it was all of the high energy emoticons, etc.

    I think those cognitive functions tests are confusing, too. I test equal Fi and Ni on them as well. Personally I think the markers they use for Fi are a little off, and probably for Ni as well, because it's incredibly apparent to me when I talk to INFJs or listen to them that we are coming from an entirely different orientation. I feel quite in sync cognitively with fellow INFPs.

    I agree with @SpankyMcFly that it can be helpful to determine Fe vs Fi, because they are really different. This explains pretty well what I'm talking about. http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=1#post2147638

    How would I summarize the functions you're wondering about?

    Ne is about multiple possibilities/options. For example, if a Ne user is presented with a precept, let's say, 'if forced to choose between right and kind, choose kind', and asked to explain it, the Ne user will think about example after example where this precept would play out. Through thinking of all of the possibilities, the precept will be better understood by the Ne-user. It puts the idea 'out there' to grasp the concept.

    Ni would take the precept itself and look at it from different angles, because Ni is more interested in concepts than possibilities. What does this precept mean, exactly, Ni would wonder. Why was this precept created? Where was the person coming from who created it? What was the cultural context, the personal context?

    As far as the judging functions go-

    Fi is personal. Basically it takes in extroverted perception and assesses. How do I feel about this precept? Is this congruent with what I consider right, with what I value? Or does this bother me to an extent that I feel a need to point out how stupid or wrong it is?

    Fe's assessment considers others more. How does this precept affect society? Is it beneficial or harmful? If we all share this value, is it a good thing or a bad thing?

    Obviously, everyone will do all of these things to an extent. It's what you do the most, and what your natural go-to is. I think it's best to figure out the top two and then narrow it down to the top one if you're confused. For me, Fi was so obvious it was a bit of a no-brainer. My issue, actually, was more Ne vs Se which made the Fi dom all the more obvious.

    I would say the fact that you can relate to all of them to an extent lends itself to you using Ne, because Ne is more likely to entertain all the options.

    Oh, and Se would say- Just give me one specific example of how this precept plays out so I can use it.

    Si would say- I remember an example of how this precept played out and how it has shaped my subsequent perceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    On that Grunge thread you just seemed really extroverted to me, that's all. More EXFP. I guess it was all of the high energy emoticons, etc.

    I think those cognitive functions tests are confusing, too. I test equal Fi and Ni on them as well. Personally I think the markers they use for Fi are a little off, and probably for Ni as well, because it's incredibly apparent to me when I talk to INFJs or listen to them that we are coming from an entirely different orientation. I feel quite in sync cognitively with fellow INFPs.

    I agree with @SpankyMcFly that it can be helpful to determine Fe vs Fi, because they are really different. This explains pretty well what I'm talking about. http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=1#post2147638

    How would I summarize the functions you're wondering about?

    Ne is about multiple possibilities/options. For example, if a Ne user is presented with a precept, let's say, 'if forced to choose between right and kind, choose kind', and asked to explain it, the Ne user will think about example after example where this precept would play out. Through thinking of all of the possibilities, the precept will be better understood by the Ne-user. It puts the idea 'out there' to grasp the concept.

    Ni would take the precept itself and look at it from different angles, because Ni is more interested in concepts than possibilities. What does this precept mean, exactly, Ni would wonder. Why was this precept created? Where was the person coming from who created it? What was the cultural context, the personal context?

    As far as the judging functions go-

    Fi is personal. Basically it takes in extroverted perception and assesses. How do I feel about this precept? Is this congruent with what I consider right, with what I value? Or does this bother me to an extent that I feel a need to point out how stupid or wrong it is?

    Fe's assessment considers others more. How does this precept affect society? Is it beneficial or harmful? If we all share this value, is it a good thing or a bad thing?

    Obviously, everyone will do all of these things to an extent. It's what you do the most, and what your natural go-to is. I think it's best to figure out the top two and then narrow it down to the top one if you're confused. For me, Fi was so obvious it was a bit of a no-brainer. My issue, actually, was more Ne vs Se which made the Fi dom all the more obvious.

    I would say the fact that you can relate to all of them to an extent lends itself to you using Ne, because Ne is more likely to entertain all the options.

    Oh, and Se would say- Just give me one specific example of how this precept plays out so I can use it.

    Si would say- I remember an example of how this precept played out and how it has shaped my subsequent perceptions.
    Hmm...this is interesting. When it comes to see the possibilities I am able to see more of them at once. It's like I see a one thing and then usually say this one thing could be like this, but also we can see it some other way, so everything is a bit relative and open for me. But I guess it's more like looking at just one thing from different angles. For example I see some painting. I am not good at looking at the details, so I rather want to see the whole concept of the painting and then judge if there is some interesting idea in it. I try to catch and understand the idea, that is hidden in the work, I try to see and understand the message that comes out from the whole concept of one painting/book etc... It's like reeding the whole book and then analyze it for its basic idea, or message. Uff... I tired to make this clear. Or other great example...I watch a film and I tend to notice and be pretty critical to mistakes I can see in it, but if the general and basic idea of the film was good, I don't care about the little mistakes so much. But then I like to take apart the meaning, that I understood from the film and analyze it to see what basicly the author might tried to say... really does this make sense? What is it? Ne, or Ni? Or something else now?

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    Polly you seem like some kind of ENFP/INFJ hybrid to me. And I imagine you often vibe like an ISFP to people as well being something a bit like Fi>Ne>Ni... (Ne standing in for Se). There's more I might say here in a moment...

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