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    I know 3 ESFPs? It can be hard to ferret them out. Mostly because they are very open to me discussing very ENFP ideas. Even if they don't quite get what I'm talking about, they're amused by the Ne and like the personal connection that they are interested and will smile and nod and join in. They tend to be a little bit more energetic partiers than ENFPs. The ones I do know have 'quiet interests' but really do live for the weekend, for burning man, for biking with friends, the club on Saturday. While ENFPs love to do that stuff, too, that's not our primary focus. We tend to me more enthusiasts with a party side and ESFPs tend to be partiers with and enthusiast side.

    The ESFPs I've met are highly aesthetic, but don't seem to connect with the grittier side of life. Tend to love beauty in the form of bright colors, natural shapes, breeziness. One friend of mine didn't want to plecostomus in her fish tank to clean up algae because it is ugly, most ENFPs I know would find that ugliness endearing.

    I think you'll find the Se and Ne difference shows the more time you spend with them, their almost super-human (to Ne) sensitivity to smells, tastes, and sounds and colors directly funneled to their judgement function Fi. That is truly their world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    ENFJ's will take you to [insert religious denomination here] on Sunday

    ESFJ's will take you downtown for tacos and a museum

    ENFP's are big socialites

    ESFP's are hipsters
    I'm sorry I think this lil list here sucks.

    I do not think its in anyway an enfj thing to take you to church and any of those types would take you downtown for tacos haha and enfps are not socialites. That would be more enfj or esfj and I do not think esfps are hipsters like probably ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Yes! I love fashion too, and am often complimented on my fashion sense. Literally the ONLY tv show I watch is Project Runway (I watch it for the fashion, not the drama, haha). I never get that description of us either. I do tend to have little stains or wrinkles or maybe a missing stone in a necklace or worn out shoes, something which my ESFJ friends wouldn't dream of. I love getting funky with my look though.

    You can count me in with the clumsy crowd too. It's bad
    Project Runaway, YES!!!

    I watch it religiously, my other favorite TV shows were America's Next Top Model and Gossip Girl, I endured the fourth season only for the fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    ESFPs are socialites, ENFPs are hipsters/aliens
    Exactly.

    I used to think that because I'm a bookworm and love gadgets that I'd be a geek, but I took a test yesterday and got hipster

    I would never call myself that because of the Tumblr syndrome, but the description is spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    While Im all for defending the sfps as they are getting that typical sensor bias bullshit in this thread again, I have to disagree with your view of Ne.

    Ne simply isnt that calculating...that sounds more like overly active Fe or so-instinct, tbh. Ne is also about having fun but in a different way, it is about seeking out the potential in people and having fun with word games and enriching (every)one's mind...an exchange of ideas really. Dinner is just a way to come together and connect with others in that way, tbh
    Yeah wtf. Ne looks for what it can get out if something?
    What? No it doesn't.

    It can also be about the pleasure of the company... All the different interesting personalities and points of view. We have a deep live for conversation about real things... Things that ignite our passion or humor or give us puzzles to get lost in and solve...

    We can very much just greatly enjoy people and all their lil quirks. It's not about getting something from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    This is not what I have extrapolated from my studies.

    Se would host a dinner party primarily for fostering a good atmosphere for company, for example.

    Ne would host a dinner party primarily to foster healthy social connections.

    Ne looks for "what they can get" out of something. Se looks for the general pleasure of experience.

    It's pretty well laid out; I even remember reading this on Socionics forums...


    Thinking back, I find it funny @DJ Arendee typed the traditional 'gangster' type as ENFP. I see what he meant now (presuming his mind hasn't changed).
    Dude, you gotta get out more and actually experience these personality types instead of reading about them on forums. I'd also like to remind you that Socionics are not the same as MBTI, if you compare their descriptions of type it's pretty clear.

    And you got it totally wrong about ENFPs. We are mostly concerned with fun too, but for us it has to involve real and genuine personal connections, unlike ESFPs who are in general looking for partying and lighter activity buddies. We ENFPs detest people interaction coming from convenience or ulterior motives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    While Im all for defending the sfps as they are getting that typical sensor bias bullshit in this thread again, I have to disagree with your view of Ne.

    Ne simply isnt that calculating...that sounds more like overly active Fe or so-instinct, tbh. Ne is also about having fun but in a different way, it is about seeking out the potential in people and having fun with word games and enriching (every)one's mind...an exchange of ideas really. Dinner is just a way to come together and connect with others in that way, tbh
    Great point about Fe. ESFJs and ENFJs are indeed more likely to arrange situations so they get close to people who can help them in some way. I mean this in the best way possible, they're very skilled at it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    Yeah wtf. Ne looks for what it can get out if something?
    What? No it doesn't.

    It can also be about the pleasure of the company... All the different interesting personalities and points of view. We have a deep live for conversation about real things... Things that ignite our passion or humor or give us puzzles to get lost in and solve...

    We can very much just greatly enjoy people and all their lil quirks. It's not about getting something from them.
    I've no idea where he got that from. Really, I've seen ENFPs being accused of being flaky and emotionally manipulative, but having ulterior motives to wanna spend time with people? Never.
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    My husband talks about that part of me. He says that he can understand why people might see my social adjusting as fake or suspicious, but he knows that it comes from a genuine desire to connect with and experience all different kinds of people. We might modify our behavior, but our aim is true. In my experience, people figure this out after a little time knowing me.
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    I'm wondering if the OP means how to find general patterns of ENFP and ENFJ that differentiate from ESFP and ESFJ patterns rather than telling apart the two EFPs and telling apart the two EFJs.
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