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    @Lux: I'm picking up on the Ni-Fe drive to improve other people's lives. Your voice carries on purpose and passion for working with people. You look directly at the camera, and then away from it when you're contemplating your future goals. Intensity in the gaze too, which is consistent with Ni-Se. Ni-Te is a possibility, but you seem more people oriented and your voice gets more passionate when you include the personal aspect of goals and respect.

    Te might be a strong function for you, but Fe can be very purposeful and intense as well, especially regarding respect for your fellow man. I sense an urgency in the tone of your voice when discussing Fe based values. It's as if you're spurring action. Intensity is definitely there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilisa View Post
    Hi fia, thanks for your response. I have noticed the earthiness in the posts of the users you mentioned. Maybe it comes from more self assuredness on their parts.
    That could be part of it. I know for myself I have quite a lot of self-doubt and relate to a lot of what you said in the rest of your post here that I will comment on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilisa View Post
    I don't deny in myself grit, and especially regarding cruelty, I have made it a point to learn about topics of cruelty and human evil in the world. I see in myself a darkside, too, which surely everyone possesses, but mine seems to play out in that stereotypical INFJ way of making myself vital to someone and then pulling away and leaving them bereft. This may sound like a humblebrag, but I don't mean it that way, I sincerely struggle with causing hurt in this way. What makes me angry is my problem dealing with this.
    You struck me as a very caring and compassionate person. There is an issue with INFJs becoming overwhelmed socially and having to withdraw, but I've definitely had other types do this as well. At some point in life I've found that it isn't something to judge a person over, but instead to just calibrate to whatever a person can give at any point in time. I have an INFP friend I adore, but she can be very cold and distant at times, so even though I keep getting hurt by her, I'm trying to just calibrate and accept her for exactly who she is rather than my idea of whom I'd like her to be. I found this quote and try to live by it: "A great burden was lifted from my shoulders the day I realized that no one owes me anything."

    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilisa View Post
    Also, I was going through a strong period of anxiety and thats part of what I was mentioning about different theories about why I'm not outwardly angry, and I think its related to anger redirected and turned inward and manifesting as anxiety and self-loathing.
    This I can relate to feeling, and I feel empathy for anyone dealing with it. I've had to make efforts to turn my anger outwards, but always struggled with it because I would assume that if I just understood more about another person's experience, that then I would excuse the behavior. I recently read some diaries from my teenage years and was amazed at the mental gymnastics I performed to excuse the behavior of people who were not treating me right at all. I think people, even rather abstract thinking ones, need simple hugs more often to help combat the complexity of self-loathing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilisa View Post
    But a lot of it, I think has to do with me viewing many videos where INFXs described in detail the injustices that anger them, those resonated, but I didn't want to be redundant. Its very enneagram four, I think But I do understand what you are getting at, that there are different qualities of processing preferences, and maybe mine across a bit more idealized or floaty. I also wonder what part being a social first variant plays.
    It is difficult to read intensely private people, so that definitely plays a role, but I just had an initial impression of a kind of innocence that includes compassion. You did say at the beginning that you didn't want to be redundant, and it is clear that you care about the large systems that have destructive, hurtful, and cruel effects on people and creatures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilisa View Post
    Anyway, back to mannerisms, I was wondering if my eyes darting around or lack of the supposed "Ni-gaze" that I hear so much about, or even anything else made anybody think I stood apart from other INFJ or the INFP video submissions. In this thread I was typed as a definite ESFJ (the poster later edited his posts to make the pronouncements softer) and @cascadeco was typed as an ENFP. Thanks again for taking the time to watch and comment. I still don't know if I can really identify any INF mannerisms yet, but I look forward to more data. I'm not sure why, but I cannot view your videos, I just see a broken image icon
    I'm uploading at least the first one to youtube, so I'll repost it here in a bit.

    Also, this is part of what I was talking about with the eye movement. I'll have to read the MBTI functional analysis of eye usages, but what has been already established has more to do with visual, auditory, and kinesthetic memories. I'll have to rewatch a couple videos noticing the eye movement.
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    Hopefully this will work for everyone.
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

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    This is the next in the sequence fwiw
    Actually, it was just uploaded, so I think it will work in a few minutes. Here is another type of link that is working for me right now.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0l8XMTHViA



    Edit: So I watched some at the link @Tiltyred provided and did see some parallel mapping. I noticed I exhibited less Fe in terms of hand gestures and more Ti in terms of looking down. The Ni stare is not as persistent as I thought it was going to be and the looking to the sides and occasional gaze forward, possibly through the object I did relate to. The main difference is that I look up and to the right more distinctly than discussed here.

    It also says that "judgment leading perception" is demonstrated in eyes not syncing with the rest of the body and I do that. hmmm Strangely enough my facial cues are also like the female INTPs. I don't think I could distinguish between the female INFJs and INTPs in the videos. I can with the INFP, though.
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    I think it's worthwhile to study the information available on http://cognitivetype.com/visualreading/ ...

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    Interesting. From what I've seen, INFP speech tends to be more like a free flowing stream of consciousness (Ne), while an INFJ's seems slower-paced and deliberate probably with some sort of script to guide them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapLawyer View Post
    Interesting. From what I've seen, INFP speech tends to be more like a free flowing stream of consciousness (Ne), while an INFJ's seems slower-paced and deliberate probably with some sort of script to guide them.
    That is a very good observation!
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    These are things you're looking for with INFP. (You'll have to save this pic and then enlarge it to be able to read it.)
    FiNe.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    Just looking at feral children and how exactly they copies animals shows that are manners are far more influenced externally than intrinsically. Place a child to be raised by dogs and her every movement and manner resembles a dog. Place a puppy with humans and its mannerisms are still like a dog, almost entirely.
    I just caught this -- what do you say to the studies showing twins who were separated at birth and raised by different families, who come together and find they use almost identical gestures, have the same favorite colors, clothes are almost exactly the same, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    I just caught this -- what do you say to the studies showing twins who were separated at birth and raised by different families, who come together and find they use almost identical gestures, have the same favorite colors, clothes are almost exactly the same, etc.?
    Wow that is interesting. I'm not sure what to think because it appears to contrast with the question in feral children. Perhaps there are more mannerism embedded even in the feral children scenario that are obscured. Humans do copy each others gestures as well which is seen in friendships as well as families with genetic ties.

    Ha, perhaps the twins are connected mentally/psychically (half kidding) Here's another question - do separated twins mimick those in their environment, and could this be seen in the remote twin. Does twin B have mannerisms like twin A's adoptive mother? There are just a ton of questions attached to this because there is clearly conflicting info. *goes to look up research*...
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
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