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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkavia View Post
    Oh my! I am surprised people remember me.

    It is good to be back. I really think I'll enjoy conversations with all y'all like I did in the past.
    Haha…an ENFP surprised people…
    (I'm very happy about the bolded)


    It is hard to remember. I know that, compared to the past, I have become much better at moving around. This was my 5th city to move to without a job and I got an offer in 6 days. I wasn't really expecting it but it helped me realize how much a knack I have for landing somewhere new and immediately making things work.
    The reason I was trying to get a feel for how…I don't even know what word to use 'surprised?'… ‘baffled?’…you might be when it comes to these sudden yearnings to pick-up & move… was to try and distinguish what is ‘typical ENFP high on life & new experience’ from what is ‘typical ENFP high on life & new experience & enneagram 7.’ Because…while I can’t be certain…I kinda feel like I’m hearing about all of it in your story and there’s definitely a difference (a difference that doesn’t necessarily call into question e3 if that’s something you’re certain of merely because most ENFPs are connected to e7 in some way or another.)

    A lot of ENPs will recognize themselves in the bolded sentence above. Few will be at your level of mastery (seriously, the first thing that comes into my mind is 'How To' book). But ‘landing somewhere new and immediately making things work...’? <--That’s Ne heaven man. That’s why Ne exists. And it’s in those moments Ne dom’s get to do exactly what we were born to do. And here is where we shine brightest. Now, a funny thing happens, however, as time goes on…we’ve landed, we’ve immediately made things work…and now comes the point when we’re sorta expected to just keep right on working…and working and working…day in and day out… I’ve noticed it’s at this point haha we start to lose a little of our sparkle as Ne begins to die a slow and painful death. Certainly, there are ENPs all across the planet that deal with the ruts and routines we will undoubtedly face once ‘settled down’…by perpetually creating great things for Ne to do. But there is a breed of ENP (I’m guilty of this)…that doesn’t necessarily take risks with any kind of strategic purpose in mind…but rather deliberately throws themselves into ‘the fire that makes the least sense’ for the excitement of it and an awareness of what can be personally gained by way of knowledge and growth for pushing yourself to do so.

    What makes all of the above total-awesomeness into something a little on the ‘e-seveny’ side is when we want to stop and find we cannot. <--I'll keep repeating this...I don't know if this applies...but since the behavior you describe is...basically the #1 most commonly seen e7 behavior manifesting itself from the e7 core issue…I thought I'd at least mention it. Somewhere along the line an individual that is e7 learned to (not) deal with Life’s pain, loss, hardship, etc. by doing a variety of different things to ignore/minimize/not face it in its full-strength entirety. Avoiding negative feelings is most often done by remaining optimistic and on a forward-moving basis towards a better tomorrow. Which, I imagine, is healthy to a certain extent but e7s often unknowingly take it to unhealthy levels when they won’t allow themselves to slow down…when they are constantly distracting themselves from experiencing and addressing painful emotions…by throwing themselves into new experiences. Many e7s will not ‘settle down’ and form attachments for a very specific reason...and their optimism and enthusiasm keeps them a bit oblivious to this fact. Again, I’m not saying you are in fact doing this or are an e7. But if any of it resonates perhaps look into it.


    So, I've changed. A lot. I was in the Middle East at the time of my involvement here last...
    I lived in the Middle East for a while as well…and of all the places I've been...I believe I miss there the most.


    That's a good point! And probably what I am truly meditating on.

    I don't think it is the societal norm that is holding me back, I think it is knowing what true community and having deep, in person friendships feel like. It has been a while since I've experienced those things and fully believe those are some of the most joyous things in life. They take time to develop, however, and can be difficult to maintai when moving around constantly.
    I relate to this so much and I think it’s great that you are meditating on it and so kindly reminding me to remain mindful of it haha as well. I mean...it’s not easy for me to put it into words but my experience of the world…the unit is ‘the individual’…me, you, someone else – all individuals. And in this way I often forget how important it is to belong to a community…to work within a group towards a purpose. <--Even just typing that out I was like… ‘did I just use the word important and group in the same sentence?’ (terrible I know) Perhaps it is the case I will only ever experience a sense of being an individual within a group as opposed to a ‘group member’…but I do believe it is an important experience to have. To learn from. And again, thank you for reminding me of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelenOfTroy View Post
    I always dreamed of buying a VW camper van and travelling through Europe on the road with my children for a summer (so far circumstance has not allowed).
    All I want to know is what color is your VW van in your dreams? Oh wait...you're not talking like Westfalia...(omg I don't even know if Westfalia is the proper word haha). You're talking old school VW bus right? I think for me I like that deep red...or teal...with a surf board on top. [cause of all that awesome surfing in landlocked Germany]

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    Ah, now I remember what I miss most about this forum. It seems like people actually get what is going on in my head!

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Haha…an ENFP surprised people…
    It happens. :p

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    The reason I was trying to get a feel for how…I don't even know what word to use 'surprised?'… ‘baffled?’…you might be when it comes to these sudden yearnings to pick-up & move… was to try and distinguish what is ‘typical ENFP high on life & new experience’ from what is ‘typical ENFP high on life & new experience & enneagram 7.’ Because…while I can’t be certain…I kinda feel like I’m hearing about all of it in your story and there’s definitely a difference (a difference that doesn’t necessarily call into question e3 if that’s something you’re certain of merely because most ENFPs are connected to e7 in some way or another.)
    I actually score evenly on e7 and e3 and I have had a hard time choosing one. Most descriptions I connect with e3 more however there was a site that is gone now (moonshine was in the URL?) and the e7 description was...creepily accurate.

    I have always chosen e3 because I am normally interested in image, prestige, etc.. and my worst fear is being mediocre. It may be important to note when I say image and prestige I mean what I find prestigious, not society. Maybe since that is so individualistic it is actually e7?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    A lot of ENPs will recognize in themselves in the bolded sentence above. Few will be at your level of mastery (seriously, the first thing that comes into my mind is 'How To' book). But ‘landing somewhere new and immediately making things work...’? <--That’s Ne heaven man. That’s why Ne exists. And it’s in those moments Ne dom’s get to do exactly what we were born to do. And here is where we shine brightest.
    Exactly! I am in my element when I am going to a new place and I have to hit the ground running. It's like emergency disaster relief. The stress of deployment, the anxiety of going there, and then the thrill of landing on the ground and actually having to do all these crazy things in a completely new environment. It is so seductive to me. And it is where I feel like I am my best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    But there is a breed of ENP (I’m guilty of this)…that doesn’t necessarily take risks with any kind of strategic purpose in mind…but rather deliberately throws themselves into ‘the fire that makes the least sense’ for the excitement of it and an awareness of what can be personally gained by way of knowledge and growth for pushing yourself to do so.
    I was told I do this about a week ago and I've been thinking about it ever since. The absolute chaos and stress I put myself through creates a lot of personal development. Almost as if I put myself in these crazy situations no one wants to be in just for the excitement and what it does for me. I always learn something and I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything. I bought my plane ticket to Seattle the day before it left. It was the one of many times people called me crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    What makes all of the above total-awesomeness into something a little on the ‘e-seveny’ side is when we want to stop and find we cannot. <--I'll keep repeating this...I don't know if this applies...but since the behavior you describe is...basically the #1 most commonly seen e7 behavior manifesting itself from the e7 core issue…I thought I'd at least mention it. Somewhere along the line an individual that is e7 learned to (not) deal with Life’s pain, loss, hardship, etc. by doing a variety of different things to ignore/minimize/not face it in its full-strength entirety. Avoiding negative feelings is most often done by remaining optimistic and on a forward-moving basis towards a better tomorrow. Which, I imagine, is healthy to a certain extent but e7s often unknowingly take it to unhealthy levels when they won’t allow themselves to slow down…when they are constantly distracting themselves from experiencing and addressing painful emotions…by throwing themselves into new experiences. Many e7s will not ‘settle down’ and form attachments for a very specific reason...and their optimism and enthusiasm keeps them a bit oblivious to this fact. Again, I’m not saying you are in fact doing this or are an e7. But if any of it resonates perhaps look into it.
    It is possible, honestly. I know that when I have a problem I prefer to run away from it. I can feel the walls closing in and so I just run. And by run I mean move to a different country instead of facing and solving the problem.

    I've also noticed I do "psychological splitting" to a certain degree. When someone (whether in my head or in reality) "betrays" me I just simply cut them off. My Fi is so offended and the only thing I can bring myself to do is immediately find a replacement for them. It is something I've been trying to work on but it literally takes minutes of intense concentration to stop my brain from going down that path. That may be a different topic all together, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    I lived in the Middle East for a while as well…and of all the places I've been...I believe I miss there the most.
    I miss it every day. I have photos of Cairo all over my desk and I wear two bracelets and one necklace from there. It stole my heart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    I relate to this so much and I think it’s great that you are meditating on it and so kindly reminding me to remain mindful of it haha as well. I mean...it’s not easy for me to put it into words but my experience of the world…the unit is ‘the individual’…me, you, someone else – all individuals. And in this way I often forget how important it is to belong to a community…to work within a group towards a purpose. <--Even just typing that out I was like… ‘did I just use the word important and group in the same sentence?’ (terrible I know) Perhaps it is the case I will only ever experience a sense of being an individual within a group as opposed to a ‘group member’…but I do believe it is an important experience to have. To learn from. And again, thank you for reminding me of it.
    Agreed 100%. I am so individualistic and yet I remember those (few) intense connections I've had with people. I feel pulled between wanting those connections and wanting to maintain myself as an independent individual who travels the world. Community is such an innate human desire. And I want it.

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    It is kind of like the buffet-style choices we make all the time - sampling is important

    That said, I've lived most of my life in Belgium. I've visited a lot of countries in Europe on on holiday and have lived a year in Russia and am now in my second year in Norway. We're contemplating trying out more countries, such as The Netherlands or Sweden before we decide where to settle down, really. My INTJ is the son of a diplomat so he does not really have any roots and I as an ENFP am happy to follow him around (and work online to make me flexible that way). In truth, my real home is online, in the virtual realm. I do enjoy having our own little private safe haven to retreat to so I'd like to have our own little house at some point. Still, most people have already settled down and started kids at my age. Meanwhile, we're contemplating living all over. My INTJ has expressed the wish to live a year in Asia at some point and he's more than happy to have like several summer homes all over Europe as well. The Asia thing has me somewhat worried - I aint a big fan of poisonous spiders, but overall I'm happy to see the world with him.

    And eventually, I hope to encounter the perfect little nook somewhere where I'll feel like living out my days with him by my side

    As for friends and family, I have a tight group of friends Ive just visited again in Belgium. And yes, it is hard to leave them behind. I try to visit them at least once or twice a year. These days, we rent a house for a weekend to catch up with each other on holiday. As for my family...I love them, but I love them even more over a distance - except for my mom, who I talk to on the phone regularly which isnt that different from what it was like when I was still in Belgium, so that works. I will admit that I havent bothered making local friends here in Norway as I know we'll move again. And I do notice that I sometimes miss the sense of community...but then thats what I come here for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkavia View Post
    I actually score evenly on e7 and e3 and I have had a hard time choosing one. Most descriptions I connect with e3 more however there was a site that is gone now (moonshine was in the URL?) and the e7 description was...creepily accurate.

    I have always chosen e3 because I am normally interested in image, prestige, etc.. and my worst fear is being mediocre. It may be important to note when I say image and prestige I mean what I find prestigious, not society. Maybe since that is so individualistic it is actually e7?
    Umm well, fwiw – if I was typing you I would put you at 7w6 sx/so (sx/so approaching balance with sp trailing quite a bit further behind.)

    Yah, oceanmoonshine.net is the site you’re referring to and I don’t know why they shut-down. So many people seemingly connected with those descriptions which is significant in my mind. They’re all here somewhere on this site…and I’m thinking I should go find and read the 7 sx/sp. I don’t remember reading that at the time and thinking ‘that is me man!’ But it was definitely the description that first had me admitting to myself how completely mistyped I was haha!

    The way you spoke of image and prestige doesn’t quite ring of e3 in my mind. I mean, I think of e3 image, prestige, status, etc. as tools used to obtain admiration. They want to be of worth, indispensible to the largest social circle possible. Many e3s will create unique public images…but they are still taking cues from the social environment. And ‘others’ are definitely needed to be the admirers/audience so, yes, there’s an undeniable social element there (umm, I just made e3s sound like total assholes when so many of them have done amazing things for humankind. sigh). What you said about ‘individualistic’ and indicating your worst case scenario would be seeming ‘mediocre’ says e7 to me. I don’t necessarily expect you to identify with this as you need to take into account differing MBTIs, etc. But the e7 sx/so is often associated with the rock star or fashion designer. There’s an awareness of image…but it’s more about generating interest instead of a specific kind of positive response like ‘admiration’. The point is that there is a response period…and to have something interesting to ponder from those responses as well haha.


    It is possible, honestly. I know that when I have a problem I prefer to run away from it. I can feel the walls closing in and so I just run. And by run I mean move to a different country instead of facing and solving the problem.

    I've also noticed I do "psychological splitting" to a certain degree. When someone (whether in my head or in reality) "betrays" me I just simply cut them off. My Fi is so offended and the only thing I can bring myself to do is immediately find a replacement for them. It is something I've been trying to work on but it literally takes minutes of intense concentration to stop my brain from going down that path. That may be a different topic all together, though.
    This is all distinctly e7 as well. And to talk about interesting ha… It’s interesting to me whenever I hear others talk about e7 as being superficial, unfeeling, uncaring… Because in my mind, at least what I believe is really going on beneath the surface as far as e7 ENFPs, is in reality we are too deep, too sensitive…we feel too much and care too much that others should thank us very kindly for ‘psychologically splitting’ and remaining cheerful as we throw ourselves head-long into the next project. Of course, this doesn’t aid us in becoming part of a community though so…perhaps learning how to detach a little like the e5…and face those feelings as they arise may in fact be our best bet. <--and wow, hopefully I’ll learn how to do that prior to age 123.

    I need to say though…that in spite of writing 18 paragraphs that may indicate otherwise haha (totally don’t know how many paragraphs I’ve just written but I feels like I’ve written a lot!)…my mission here isn’t to convince you - you are e7. Whatever your e-type may be…I merely believe the answer to ‘ENFPS – do you feel the need to constantly (and suddenly) move?’ will only be found by reading everything you can possibly get your hands on regarding ‘enneagram & lucky number seven.’


    I was told I do this about a week ago and I've been thinking about it ever since. The absolute chaos and stress I put myself through creates a lot of personal development. Almost as if I put myself in these crazy situations no one wants to be in just for the excitement and what it does for me. I always learn something and I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything. I bought my plane ticket to Seattle the day before it left. It was the one of many times people called me crazy.
    Yup. And *sniff* you do your type proud. You do your type proud. (seriously, this is what makes me proud to be ENFP e7 in spite of the fact you might be ENFP e3.)


    I miss it every day. I have photos of Cairo all over my desk and I wear two bracelets and one necklace from there. It stole my heart.
    Is one of those bracelets an ‘evil eye’ bracelet?




    And is the necklace a scarab beetle necklace?




    I lived in Garden City. And yes, Cairo and the entire Middle East should be thankful that I do the ‘psychological splitting’ thing.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Umm well, fwiw – if I was typing you I would put you at 7w6 sx/so (sx/so approaching balance with sp trailing quite a bit further behind.)
    I don't now what any of that means. ; ;

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Yah, oceanmoonshine.net is the site you’re referring to and I don’t know why they shut-down. So many people seemingly connected with those descriptions which is significant in my mind. They’re all here somewhere on this site…and I’m thinking I should go find and read the 7 sx/sp. I don’t remember reading that at the time and thinking ‘that is me man!’ But it was definitely the description that first had me admitting to myself how completely mistyped I was haha!
    I'll have to look for it, as well. 7w6..7w6...7w6...

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    The way you spoke of image and prestige doesn’t quite ring of e3 in my mind. I mean, I think of e3 image, prestige, status, etc. as tools used to obtain admiration. They want to be of worth, indispensible to the largest social circle possible. Many e3s will create unique public images…but they are still taking cues from the social environment. And ‘others’ are definitely needed to be the admirers/audience so, yes, there’s an undeniable social element there (umm, I just made e3s sound like total assholes when so many of them have done amazing things for humankind. sigh). What you said about ‘individualistic’ and indicating your worst case scenario would be seeming ‘mediocre’ says e7 to me. I don’t necessarily expect you to identify with this as you need to take into account differing MBTIs, etc. But the e7 sx/so is often associated with the rock star or fashion designer. There’s an awareness of image…but it’s more about generating interest instead of a specific kind of positive response like ‘admiration’. The point is that there is a response period…and to have something interesting to ponder from those responses as well haha.
    Sometimes it can be hard to tell. Do I like admiration? Well...yeah. I'm sure a lot of ENFPs do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    This is all distinctly e7 as well. And to talk about interesting ha… It’s interesting to me whenever I hear others talk about e7 as being superficial, unfeeling, uncaring… Because in my mind, at least what I believe is really going on beneath the surface as far as e7 ENFPs, is in reality we are too deep, too sensitive…we feel too much and care too much that others should thank us very kindly for ‘psychologically splitting’ and remaining cheerful as we throw ourselves head-long into the next project. Of course, this doesn’t aid us in becoming part of a community though so…perhaps learning how to detach a little like the e5…and face those feelings as they arise may in fact be our best bet. <--and wow, hopefully I’ll learn how to do that prior to age 123.
    It's a gigantic problem, IMO. It doesn't support relationships, friendships, or anything really. You are just constantly floating on to the next thing, leaving whatever made you upset (even if it wasn't real) behind. The crazy part is, at least for me, I never even address the problem so the other doesn't even know anything was ever wrong. So they feel left behind. Or I assume they do. I wouldn't know, considering I don't talk to them anymore.


    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Yup. And *sniff* you do your type proud. You do your type proud. (seriously, this is what makes me proud to be ENFP e7 in spite of the fact you might be ENFP e3.)
    Haha...I do my type proud I know... but it comes with... things to work on? I don't know. Maybe this is what I'm getting at. Maybe what I've been doing isn't the "right" thing to do.



    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Is one of those bracelets an ‘evil eye’ bracelet?

    It is, in fact, an evil eye bracelet. Very simple though. Just one eye on a string. Nothing crazy. I like simplicty and minimalism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    I lived in Garden City. And yes, Cairo and the entire Middle East should be thankful that I do the ‘psychological splitting’ thing.





    I lived in Maadi first with an expat friend in the oil industry, then to Tahrir square, then Zamalek. I liked all three for different reasons. I don't know if I could choose just one.

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    I'm INFP, but I frequently have an urge to move, quit jobs, disappear from social circles, etc. I can feel discontent due to things not changing because static/stable = not improving which is unbearable me, and I start lamenting that things will never change (or not significantly enough). I'm trying to cultivate patience & gratitude for what IS, because too much focus on what is NOT tends to be a problem for me in this area.

    I tend to not act on it though, being aware of the destructive side of it. Luckily, I am bad with the logistics of many of these, so that prevents me from doing it also. ENFPs tend to be better with spontaneously navigating logistics (Ne+Te I suppose), so they're more likely to act on it.

    I've idealized a life where I have a modest home base & am semi-nomadic otherwise. This would require a location independent job. I still keep my eye out for such opportunities & pursue them where I can. So far, not happening.

    I find that injecting my life with general variety & novelty & spontaneity helps. Instead of taking up a new location, find newness in other ways.

    I think it helps to meditate on those things which are important to you & emotionally fulfilling that require some stability & roots.
    I've gotten the urge to quit something I've been working on for the past year or more & whenever I do, I just remind myself how much work I've put into it already, how important it is to me, and that it would be going backwards to give it all up now.

    It's good to ponder how change is not always progress, basically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkavia View Post
    I don't know what any of that means.

    Well actually…


    It's a gigantic problem, IMO. It doesn't support relationships, friendships, or anything really. You are just constantly floating on to the next thing, leaving whatever made you upset (even if it wasn't real) behind. The crazy part is, at least for me, I never even address the problem so the other doesn't even know anything was ever wrong. So they feel left behind. Or I assume they do. I wouldn't know, considering I don't talk to them anymore.
    Haha...I do my type proud I know... but it comes with... things to work on? I don't know. Maybe this is what I'm getting at. Maybe what I've been doing isn't the "right" thing to do.
    …these sentiments suggest to me that you know what it all means quite well. [I’m going to respond to that other thing you sent in a minute here.]



    It is, in fact, an evil eye bracelet. Very simple though. Just one eye on a string. Nothing crazy. I like simplicty and minimalism.
    Umm well…some people…maybe they um …maybe they also like simplicity and minimalism and you know... would truly prefer to make that kind of fashion statement. Maybe they even feel secretly embarrassed sometimes about how gaudy their bracelet is...but for whatever reason… like it’s a personal choice they made for themselves based on past experiences and luck and stuff… they merely felt it would be best if they had more than one eye protecting them from the Evil Eye. (omg haha)


    I lived in Maadi first with an expat friend in the oil industry, then to Tahrir square, then Zamalek. I liked all three for different reasons. I don't know if I could choose just one.
    Jealous.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    It's good to ponder how change is not always progress, basically.
    This is so important for Ne dom/aux to remain mindful of…and so difficult as well as our brains are wired in such a way that makes new experiences and change feel like progress even in instances when it’s nothing of the sort. And because I need daily reminding...thanks for that too.

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    I currently type as xNFP, likely INFP, but essentially, yes. This is the story of my life.

    It started when I was really little and would start projects and then never finish them, moving onto the next interesting one as soon as it came up.

    When I got old enough (and moneyed enough) to leave the house, I started my life of nomadism. Instead of darting from one project to the next, I started moving from one country to the next. I've lived in numerous places, and I wouldn't be happy unless I were constantly on the move. I do it on a shoe-string, but it's fun anyway.

    With me, I'm always eager to go do something new and am ready to move pretty much as soon as it's suggested. Even if it gets in the way of something else I planned, I'll just sort of shift my priorities around. Like, for instance, I've been trying to raise the money to buy a house in my current (dirt cheap) country...and on a flight to Doha a few months ago I saw an advertisement for Sri Lanka.

    Me: OOOH, Sri Lanka...MUST GO TO SRI LANKA.

    So, here I am taking a break from my work to go live in Sri Lanka for two months, off my own savings. Then my father called me and offered to pay for a visit to him in Cardiff...so I just sort of tacked that onto the trip as well. Not that I don't want to buy the house, just that my priorities instantly realign when I see something better.

    Now that I'm 30, I'm starting to see how this is impeding my quality of life--I can't settle down, because the whole world calls me. I can't have a stable job, because something better might come along. I can't save any money, because I've got to spend it exploring the world. Every step I take towards something, I trip over myself, lol.

    I am always amazed that others think this is some sort of impressive thing to do, because it's just my natural energy flow. I don't know what advice to offer you @Malkavia, because I struggle with this myself. Perhaps you could find a job that involves constant motion and travel? Or, take the job but take lots of vacations? You can always quit, or move in the future.

    LOL, not that I'm qualified to be giving this advice, exactly, but those are my thoughts, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I'm INFP, but I frequently have an urge to move, quit jobs, disappear from social circles, etc. I can feel discontent due to things not changing because static/stable = not improving which is unbearable me, and I start lamenting that things will never change (or not significantly enough). I'm trying to cultivate patience & gratitude for what IS, because too much focus on what is NOT tends to be a problem for me in this area.

    I tend to not act on it though, being aware of the destructive side of it. Luckily, I am bad with the logistics of many of these, so that prevents me from doing it also. ENFPs tend to be better with spontaneously navigating logistics (Ne+Te I suppose), so they're more likely to act on it.

    I've idealized a life where I have a modest home base & am semi-nomadic otherwise. This would require a location independent job. I still keep my eye out for such opportunities & pursue them where I can. So far, not happening.

    I find that injecting my life with general variety & novelty & spontaneity helps. Instead of taking up a new location, find newness in other ways.

    I think it helps to meditate on those things which are important to you & emotionally fulfilling that require some stability & roots.
    I've gotten the urge to quit something I've been working on for the past year or more & whenever I do, I just remind myself how much work I've put into it already, how important it is to me, and that it would be going backwards to give it all up now.

    It's good to ponder how change is not always progress, basically.
    Thanks for the reply OA! It's true, experiencing new things here has been very helpful. It keeps things new and interesting.

    I've really been experiencing everything this city has to offer and it's been amazing. Festivals, concerts, Pride, fireworks last night, etc... It definitely creates a "shared experience" between you and the place you're at which can help you feel more rooted.

    And yes, my work has culminated into this dream job offer. It will root me, at least for a while, because I worked so hard for it.

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    Well actually…

    …these sentiments suggest to me that you know what it all means quite well.
    Well I mean I don't know how to express these sentiments in an enneagram context you silly goose. :p



    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Umm well…some people…maybe they um …maybe they also like simplicity and minimalism and you know... would truly prefer to make that kind of fashion statement. Maybe they even feel secretly embarrassed sometimes about how gaudy their bracelet is...but for whatever reason… like it’s a personal choice they made for themselves based on past experiences and luck and stuff… they merely felt it would be best if they had more than one eye protecting them from the Evil Eye. (omg haha)
    Just make sure they're blessed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Jealous.
    It was life changing.



    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post

    I am always amazed that others think this is some sort of impressive thing to do, because it's just my natural energy flow.
    This. This right here as well. People always talk about how amazing or impressive it is and this ends up making it akward for me. It is so natural for me. So when I nonchalantly talk about it I come off as pretentious. It's not that at all! It's just how I've my life.

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