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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    Funny, I can't get enfp's away from me fast enough. Probably because I ignore them. Since they're so dead set on being the center of attention, they do everything in their power to change that. They all seem to have the same exact pickup lines.

    Me: Fuck you
    ENFP: Please do!
    I'm callin bs here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    I'm callin bs here.
    I agree. That doesn't sound like an ENFP to me either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    @Starry

    It is a great avatar isn't it?

    Haha Great One. For what it is I think you made a good choice. I like how her body is maybe a bit more realistic (?) with regards to proportion (?). But yah...you're crazy man if you think you can pair that avatar...with that Elfboy quote... and not have hundreds of ENFP females falling all over you. It is a potent and irresistible combination

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    I keep misreading this thread title as, “ENFPs, why aren’t you wearing any pants?”

    Which makes me wonder, ENFPs, have you ever left the house and forgot to put on pants? Because I can honestly see this happening.

    @Starry, be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    @Starry, be honest.
    haha. There was one time I left the house in only a slip, yes. But I belong to the ‘fire hazard’ sub-type of ENFP. So, while I can generally complete the entire dressing process from start-to-finish all by myself!…it’s the longer duration of cooking times that pose the greatest threat to the neighborhood. Putting something into a 400 degree oven immediately notifies my brain…‘There’s nothing else that needs to be done here.’ And I feel *so proud* when I think of how I recently broke my all time record for ‘number of days’ I have left a pot of meatballs simmering before I rediscovered it!

    Typhus is never going to come back.

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    Addressing OP: Be careful what you wish for. Ti and Fi don't mix, bro.

    My Ti says you can do better.
    ENFPs ain't all they're cracked up to be, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    I keep misreading this thread title as, “ENFPs, why aren’t you wearing any pants?”

    Which makes me wonder, ENFPs, have you ever left the house and forgot to put on pants? Because I can honestly see this happening.

    @Starry, be honest.
    Close...but no, thank god. I tend to feel something is really off when I try to walk out of the front door without feeling cloth moving against my legs.

    Though if you want to get literal, I never wear pants, in or outdoors.

    And yes.. I fear we've been too hard on the OP for him to come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Haha Great One. For what it is I think you made a good choice. I like how her body is maybe a bit more realistic (?) with regards to proportion (?). But yah...you're crazy man if you think you can pair that avatar...with that Elfboy quote... and not have hundreds of ENFP females falling all over you. It is a potent and irresistible combination
    Yeah I know.

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    I'm jumping in at a random time and haven't really read over anyone's comments, nor am I following the current coversation
    But here is my take,
    It depends on the ENFP. An ENFP friend of mine will willingly sleep with almost any guy she finds attractive.
    I don't have a hard time "hooking up" either.
    Though I'm sure there are some soft ENFPs that are conservative when it comes to sex. When I was younger, I'd ONLY sleep with someone I was dating. But after many difficult/painful/frustrating relationships, I gave up on meaningful sex. For now, casual hook-ups is where its at.
    Answer: Find an ENFP that has had her/his heart ripped out of their chest and shoved through a meat grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Close...but no, thank god. I tend to feel something is really off when I try to walk out of the front door without feeling cloth moving against my legs.

    Though if you want to get literal, I never wear pants, in or outdoors.

    And yes.. I fear we've been too hard on the OP for him to come back.
    No, I'm not scared away that easily, I'm just busy. I'm serious about learning more about ENFPs. I didn't choose to like that type. I say like ENFPs because most of the women I've been attracted to have been of that type.

    I do think that there has been an overreaction to some off the cuff comments I made, but I admit that part of that is my fault because I opened up with an insensitive approach. I should've said this before, but I'm one of those INTPs that's sarcastic and clownish. I like to wind people up, but I wasn't trying to do that here. But echoes of my personality come through and you thought I was trolling.

    INTPs are weird and misunderstood and and atypical INTPs have it harder. I'm trying to stop coming off as a douche to ENFPs and everyone else. That's why I'm back. I'm serious in my goal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    Addressing OP: Be careful what you wish for. Ti and Fi don't mix, bro.

    My Ti says you can do better.
    ENFPs ain't all they're cracked up to be, anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    A while ago I read a beautiful "motivational poster" about mbti types in love, and the INTP one was "loving you is easy", which I think applies here. From my subjective perspective, ENFJs seem overall much easier to deal with, probably because their feelings make more immediate sense to me and also because their emotions are overall more controlled and smooth.

    Something to think about.
    ENFJs are fine, but something deep in me is turned of by Js.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    With him Im joking because I know Freeeekyyy, I have more of a background of information on him and I know what he meant when he said what he said. With you, unfortunately, all I have to go on atm is this thread. On top of that, you were displaying signs of a typical problem that ENFPs tend to have with IxTxs, and you asked what Fi was about, so I decided to give you the insider perspective. In my later posts, I did acknowledge that from your reactions, I could tell you don't mean to look down on us, and that I do appreciate.

    That said - your Ti is still fighting with our Fi.

    Your problem lies in the bolded. Unlike you, we do not approach things with natural scepticism. We do not ask critical questions first, nor do we take things apart. We see the options, the marvellous options if Astrology happens to be true (lets stick with that option). Does that mean we believe in it? Hell no, but we sure as hell are going to get excited in tinkering with it, learning all the ins and outs, what it means and gaining an oversight of what we can do with it and how it supposedly works. We *NEED* to be free to do that. It is how we investigate the world and how our creativity works. And creativity gets strangled when it gets judged, needs to be validated, gets critiqued in its early stages.

    Then there is the second problem. You demanding and expecting shit hits our Fi.
    Fi tends to believe in 'as long as I dont harm anyone, I can do what I want.' It also tends to value freedom of opinion and letting people be who *they* are, and not demanding them to be who you expect them to be.

    ... your Ti judges, critiques, expects and demands in a way that we a) cannot deliver b) arent suited to live up to
    and c) frankly...wouldnt even deliver on if we could, just to spite you for violating the things that make us who we are and what we treasure while telling us you supposedly like and respect who we are. => this is illogical and inconsistent, thus suspicious in Fi-logic. These factors do not add up. These are emotional gaps and inconsistencies that show up in a liar or someone who isn't aware that their pov isn't the pov of others in the world.

    Now I'm gambling on the fact that you are in fact becoming aware that people look differently at the world, and that you are trying to learn *how* that works, hence I tried to explain to you again where we differ from you.

    And now, Im waiting to see if you will actually *DO* something with that information.

    While I can appreciate your Ti preference of needing logical proof and I understand that that is how you see the world (which is similar to how I was joking with Freeeekyyy, coz Ive already done my research on how he works and the fact that he means well), in a hypothetical world where I'm the ENFP you want to get with, you need to do the same for me to consider you as a partner. As a friend, I can probably flex and understand you re stil learning this.

    Concretely, this means that if I were to actually date you and our lives would collide, you would get to demand me backing up shit logically (and Id hope youd give me the benefit of the doubt and help me with this as I suck at it) that affects *us* as a couple and our lives together.

    HOWEVER. Stuff like astrology is none of your business, unless I want you to take part in it. Homeopathy and me taking it is NONE of your business, unless Im feeding it to you. If I want to believe they work, then it would be in your best interest for your sex life to stfu. At the very least. At best, Id enjoy you actually showing some respect for how I work and perhaps giving me the benefit of the doubt in trusting that maybe, I see something you don't in the things you have trouble not being critical of. Similarly, I'd understand that you don't live up to my Fi standards, that you live by different rules.

    This is us as a couple.

    As a friend, i'll expect nothing from you. I don't do expectations and I try to accept people for who they are, and I'll flex if necessary. I don't have an actual beef with you in general. In fact, I think you're rather interesting. And I could see myself befriending you. That said...

    You're not dating/bed material though. Not at this point.

    Im going to say this again - you might want to check out NFJs.
    It seems that I'm coming off to you just as a stereotypically judgemental ESTJ would dress down an INTP for failing to be an SJ. I had no idea that this was how Ti would conflict with Fi. Is that why ENFP-INTP relationships are discouraged?

    I didn't mean to suppress a vital part of a person or force them to think as I do. As an INTP, I know all about the weight of social expectations that I have no interest in meeting. Now that I know this, what things can I do so that I don't tread on Fi and produce this reaction? Give ENFPs space to engage their Ne (?) and explore the world and understand systems without demanding they follow my standards of logic and thought. But what else?

    Why are ENFJs theoretically ideal for INTPs? Js tend to be controlling and that pisses me off. (Ironic isn't it?)

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