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    Max Ehrmann


    Desiderata

    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible without surrender
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even the dull and the ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
    they are vexations to the spirit.
    If you compare yourself with others,
    you may become vain and bitter;
    for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
    Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.


    Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
    it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
    Exercise caution in your business affairs;
    for the world is full of trickery.
    But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
    many persons strive for high ideals;
    and everywhere life is full of heroism.


    Be yourself.
    Especially, do not feign affection.
    Neither be cynical about love;
    for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
    it is as perennial as the grass.


    Take kindly the counsel of the years,
    gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
    Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
    But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
    Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
    Beyond a wholesome discipline,
    be gentle with yourself.


    You are a child of the universe,
    no less than the trees and the stars;
    you have a right to be here.
    And whether or not it is clear to you,
    no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.


    Therefore be at peace with God,
    whatever you conceive Him to be,
    and whatever your labors and aspirations,
    in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.


    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
    it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful.
    Strive to be happy.
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    NFs, you dont have strong opinions concerning ideas this poem invoked in regards to how a life is best lived?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    NFs, you dont have strong opinions concerning ideas this poem invoked in regards to how a life is best lived?
    Jeez, BW, you're slipping. Punctuation errors and incomprehensible sentence construction?

    Are you ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    Jeez, BW, you're slipping. Punctuation errors and incomprehensible sentence construction?
    I understood it.

    (But maybe that's not a good thing for me. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I understood it.

    (But maybe that's not a good thing for me. )
    Oh, I understood it, but it doesn't display BW's emphasis on conciseness and clarity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    NFs, you dont have strong opinions concerning ideas this poem invoked in regards to how a life is best lived?
    It's nice and all, but there isn't really anything about passion or causes that I could see and what is an NF without passion and causes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    It's nice and all, but there isn't really anything about passion or causes that I could see and what is an NF without passion and causes?
    Oooh--good point?

    Are discontented SJs the intended audience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    Oooh--good point?
    Are discontented SJs the intended audience?
    Yes, it felt a lot like pseudo-NF... SJ sentimentalism and call-to-duty style thinking (sort of like the poetry we see on "inspirational" cards and such) masquerading as NF.

    There was no spark or underlying life to it that would signify it to be authentic NF, everything was very surface-oriented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Yes, it felt a lot like pseudo-NF... SJ sentimentalism and call-to-duty style thinking (sort of like the poetry we see on "inspirational" cards and such) masquerading as NF.

    There was no spark or underlying life to it that would signify it to be authentic NF, everything was very surface-oriented.
    Maybe we should rewrite it?



    Sounds like a game to me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    Maybe we should rewrite it?



    Sounds like a game to me....
    Sounds like fun. I'm getting ready to leave for a few hours, but I might print it up to take with me so I can follow the parallels and see where you are when I get back.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
    ~ John Rogers

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