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    Default Ascended Cosmic Masters - INFJ?

    Cosmic Masters | Church of the Cosmos : Temple of Light
    Several Ascended Masters
    Confucius
    Djwhal Khul
    Elijah
    El Morya Fifth Ray - Blue Ray - Throat Chakra
    Enoch
    Ganesh
    Gautama Buddha
    Hilarion Fourth Ray - Green Ray - Green Ray - Healing - Heart Chakra
    Jesus / Sananda
    John the Baptist
    Kuthumi Third Ray - Yellow Ray - Solar Plexus
    Kwan-Yin Sixth Ray - Indigo Ray - Third Eye chakra
    Lady Nada Second Ray - Orange Ray - Sacral Chakra
    Maitreya
    Virgin Mary
    Melchizedek
    Metatron
    Milarepa
    Paul the Venetian
    Saint Germain Seventh Ray - Violet Ray - Crown Chakra
    Sanat Kumara
    Serapis Bey First Ray - Red Ray - Root Chakra
    Zoroaster
    source - Angels, Ascended Masters & Guides

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    Any type has the capability of becoming an ascended master, however it is perhaps more natural for some types to become ascetics in the society we currently are living in due to being naturally inclined to study the self rather than simply seeing more value in material gain by default and therefore being able to fuel the process of self-actualization needed to ascend. In an ideal society all types would have an equal opportunity at reaching the heights of wisdom and self actualization due to internalizing the higher ideals and understanding of paradise/heaven rather than constantly being plummeted with mixed messages targeting the more basic physical drives/desires. I would hazard a guess many of the people on this list were of different mbti types than one might expect, although introversion and intuition would probably be much more statistically common. Enneagram type and instinct could also have a large effect on these factors.

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    Ascension is for those who see a stairs and insert a challenge.

    Far better to sit on level 1, look at humanity and understand the challenge that already is.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Ascension is for those who see a stairs and insert a challenge.

    Far better to sit on level 1, look at humanity and understand the challenge that already is.
    Ah, but to try to understand, to truly understand is to insert a challenge as well. Where do you go/what do you strive for after you feel you have sufficiently understood? Is understanding of humanity the greatest task a person can undertake, the only noble goal? Maybe seeing the stairs is the next step? Maybe it is the first step for people of a different inclination than your own? Perhaps ascension appears as some grandiose narcissistic desire, but if ascension can be seen as the study of the self in relation to divinity, wouldn't seeking to understand others first seem far more delusional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chawie View Post
    Ah, but to try to understand, to truly understand is to insert a challenge as well. Where do you go/what do you strive for after you feel you have sufficiently understood? Is understanding of humanity the greatest task a person can undertake, the only noble goal? Maybe seeing the stairs is the next step? Maybe it is the first step for people of a different inclination than your own? Perhaps ascension appears as some grandiose narcissistic desire, but if ascension can be seen as the study of the self in relation to divinity, wouldn't seeking to understand others first seem far more delusional?
    I'm not sure what this has to do with what I or you said.

    I wasn't challenging the aimless pursuit of materialism vs self-actualisation. But too many people idealise ascension incorrectly as a form of achievement akin to becoming a god.

    Self-actualisation is a great goal and one which does help an individual and others around them. But, there are a lot of false prophets and sooth-sayers who peddle easy answers in pursuit of this goal but who, in reality, are stunting peoples growth towards this.

    I understand this better than you might give me credit for. My definition of what an individual defines as 'ascension' is different to yours. I'm talking of those who preach of their grandness and the greatness that their ascension will bring, but who are as empty as those promises, like the barely glimmering core of a dying sun.

    Frankly I was being, perhaps, a bit more literal than yourself, for me the issues of humanity run right through the core of us and they are both material and immaterial. Before you set your sights on the lights beyond ours, perhaps a little love for those that are presently here, or else run the risk of self-indulgence rather than actualisation.

    I also find some ideas of ascension rather close to religion and that is another topic in itself.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    I'm not sure what this has to do with what I or you said.

    I wasn't challenging the aimless pursuit of materialism vs self-actualisation. But too many people idealise ascension incorrectly as a form of achievement akin to becoming a god.

    Self-actualisation is a great goal and one which does help an individual and others around them. But, there are a lot of false prophets and sooth-sayers who peddle easy answers in pursuit of this goal but who, in reality, are stunting peoples growth towards this.

    I understand this better than you might give me credit for. My definition of what an individual defines as 'ascension' is different to yours. I'm talking of those who preach of their grandness and the greatness that their ascension will bring, but who are as empty as those promises, like the barely glimmering core of a dying sun.

    Frankly I was being, perhaps, a bit more literal than yourself, for me the issues of humanity run right through the core of us and they are both material and immaterial. Before you set your sights on the lights beyond ours, perhaps a little love for those that are presently here, or else run the risk of self-indulgence rather than actualisation.

    I also find some ideas of ascension rather close to religion and that is another topic in itself.
    Ah, good post. My second post had little to do with my first, more to do with an unsaid personal understanding of what i perceive as the value of a "true" search for self enlightenment and understanding. I probably said too much unnecessarily, but just felt like there was more value to the idea of a search for "ascension" if it can be called that than what i sensed in the attitude of your first post, but this was cleared up in the second. I definitely agree with the people idealizing ascension incorrectly as "becoming a god" annoying, and perhaps appears like this is the type being encouraged by the OP. I suppose it would be hard to see completely eye to eye on this issue with a difference of belief as to whether past "ascended masters" really were in touch with some form of divinity/the supernatural, or if they were just snake-oil salesmen/idealists with somewhat empty words and limited perspectives.

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    I ascended once, but they wouldn't let me stay up there so I had to turn around and come back.

    *just so no one takes me seriously...I am kidding.
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=61024&page=14

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    Buddha previously lived a life of leisure and hedonism. He didn't even leave on his path to "enlightenment" until he was 35 years old. Then he wasted years going to the other extreme of asceticism, realizing that was faulty too. Only after trying out both did he find a new vision for the "middle path". From what I can tell, INFJs don't fumble their way through things like this.

    As for "ascended masters", sounds like something New Age. Is that blog where you get a lot of your ideas? Or did you write it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    These are all obviously INFJs - just look at the focused and yet glazed and spacey look in their eyes. That's how you know for certain.
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.
    Fear of reality creates myopic morality
    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
    (from Blue Velvet)

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    Are you serious? Some of those are cartoon characters, I think.

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