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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Goes back to wanting to please those he loves and cares about, aka his dad. He has no reason to doubt his dads wishes and judgement at that point, so yes, NeTe comes up with a solution to stop being a disappointment to his dad. But he does not seek to control the dragon, he seeks to understand it. Something stops him the second it is helpless on the floor, and that something is the fear he sees reflected back at him. The same fear he feels when he sees a dragon. He sees a helpless being, which fully surrenders to him as he has no other choice, which fully expects to die. And he cuts it loose, knowing very well that the dragon might kill him, as he gives up the position of power. Once he is taught that a dragon will *always* go for the kill, in dragon class, his curiosity demands that he finds out why this dragon didnt. And so his quest for understanding, not controlling, begins. And you see him gaining confidence and strength as he follows his own NeFi path, as opposed to the path laid out for him by his tribesmen. If it was social acceptance that truly drove him, he would relish his popularity through his gained knowledge a lot more. Instead, his curiosity and need to know more prompts him to avoid it in order to get back to what is important: understanding this fascinating creature.
    Of couse not, Te would want to control it. Thats whythe EJs end up in the positions they do. They take emperical evidence and run with it. They dont attempt to dig in and understand. Ti is just as much about understanding as Fi.

    Plus what u just wrote sounds ENFP use of Te and he is far from ENFP. I dont see Te. I see alot of Ne and Ti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    Of couse not, Te would want to control it. Thats whythe EJs end up in the positions they do. They take emperical evidence and run with it. They dont attempt to dig in and understand. Ti is just as much about understanding as Fi.

    Plus what u just wrote sounds ENFP use of Te and he is far from ENFP. I dont see Te. I see alot of Ne and Ti.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post


    I guess the thread fails. I don't really have the energy to convince you of what an enfp looks like. Nor do I desire to do so.
    Ok. I know several ENFPs and i just dont see it. I am not gonna argue that you dont feel a connection with what or who he is or does, but i dont see enough of a resemblence.

    Failure is dependent on your goal. Are you trying to prove something or be open to suggestions? I know ENFPs and i know when discussing/arguiing they can revert to others to "prove" there point....talk to so and so...they can explain better then me.

    Anyway...i hear you. Its been dropped
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    I thought Hiccup was INFP* myself... because I related to so much of how he was acting... between giant awkwardness and the drive between social pressure and going your own way.

    I also really think that this has a lot of merit:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nijntje View Post
    See, this is how lame i am on MBTI, i totally forgot that functions are shared.

    I did think his dragon could be ENFP as well though, but this assessment is based on the highly scientific, Cute + Incredibly Expressive Non Verbal Facial Expressions theory.

    *If I am INFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    something I cannot violate without violating myself equally so. Nor will it matter if I violate it, as I will be unable to budge on it anyways. Nor will it be possible to clearly word why it is that I cannot do whatever it is they are demanding from me.
    Who is this I person?

    She sounds like a queen bitch. Making you suffer like this. She sounds like she doesn't really appreciate you. It's like she's your slave owner. Why are you allowing her to treat you like this?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Hell no. He is about as Fi as they come. Fe-tard, for sure, but Fi to the core. It is what stays his hand when *everyone* is telling him he is wrong. His machine doesnt work btw..not properly calibrated. But the idea is there. He takes several trial and error moments to properly get the tail working, to gather empirical data on what *exactly* it is supposed to do, to then make adjustments.
    And his interaction with the dragon when he first studies it is classic NeFi: figuring out where the other persons boundaries are, yet being curious enough to keep interacting, testing them thoroughly yet respectfully (lifting the foot when the dragon growls, and putting it back down, just to test if he interpreted that signal properly), realising what is important and valuable to this other creature in front of him. It isn't about control or exploitation, or even mapping out how things work. It is about understanding and connecting, as well finding your own strengths and trusting in them. It is effing theme of the entire story. Those are typical ENFP pitfalls and life lessons, not NT ones (though Im not saying that NTs do not go through this. Im just saying that it isnt their typical focal point in life)
    agreed. he is Fi as hell. ENTPs are too amoral and don't care enough to get involved is something to idealistic. however, I think the attention to detail @_Poki_ mentioned was Tertiary Si. his Te on the other hand is terrible and he lacks the authority and command of an ENFP. I think he is INFP 6w7>1w9>2w1 Sp/Sx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    agreed. he is Fi as hell. ENTPs are too amoral and don't care enough to get involved is something to idealistic. however, I think the attention to detail @_Poki_ mentioned was Tertiary Si. his Te on the other hand is terrible and he lacks the authority and command of an ENFP. I think he is INFP 6w7>1w9>2w1 Sp/Sx
    He seems to have a much more analytical nature to him then an INFP in my opinion. Definately not ENTP. Analytical doesnt mean smart, it just means he goes about analyzing things differently then an INFP would when it comes to technical stuff. I would say INxP for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    He seems to have a much more analytical nature to him then an INFP in my opinion. Definately not ENTP. Analytical doesnt mean smart, it just means he goes about analyzing things differently then an INFP would when it comes to technical stuff. I would say INxP for sure
    - analytical does not = Ti
    - he is not dominant thinking/inferior feeling
    - he is up to his eyeballs in Fi (it's hard to explain, but just trust the FPs here, he is up to his eyeballs in Fi, we can just tell).

    that said, his precision and attention to detail could be resultant of Se. I could see him as an ISFP as well (actually, this is just as likely as INFP imo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    ...he lacks the authority and command of an ENFP.
    Elfboy...??? Tell me one ENFP from history (and no Darth Vadar doesn't count)...that has presented with 'authority and command'? (is this a bad time to tell you that I don't even think you are ENFP? I think you are an ISFP 9w8).

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    Wow. This thread got all which way of type-ugly.

    Can't we just talk about the freakin' DRAGONS instead? Sigh.
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