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    Default Are you fascinated with the outlaw mentality?

    I was taking the Oldham personality quiz thing and two of the questions I was asked to rate myself on made me realize things about myself.


    1. I am intrigued by an underground kind of life where you can break the rules and get away with it.

    2 .Even though I'm not sure I should be, I find myself fascinated by violence, weapons, and martial arts. I like TV shows with a lot of action and violence in them.



    I have always been sort of fascinated by the anti-hero. Traditional "good guys" have never really gotten me rooting for them but I've always been captivated by characters that do good despite being imperfect or tormented themselves. Whenever I daydream about being some one else it's typically someone on the edge of society who is good but man not be seen that way.

    Also I have a fascination with weapons. Guns especially I like to draw and paint, even though I am very opposed to the idea of everyday people having free access to them. There was a gun that came into out shop the other day and I couldn't tear myself away from it. Maybe because it's a mixture of design and function but also power? It was just really thrilling to look and and hold and tinker with.


    I've always also been attracted to the idea of being in a gang or a mafia, or some other type of underground society. Obviously this is due to romantic notions of these things but it still intriguing why this is so, rather than day dreaming about being say highly respected and lauded and powerful.

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    You have to make the rules, not follow them.

    That of course was a Newton quote in my signature.

    It correlates quite well with the Adventurous/Antisocial philosophy.

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    I'm fascinated by the anarchist mentality. I want to be free and in solidarity with my fellow free people. I want to live a sustainable, independent lifestyle. I want to be able to survive in any situation, using mad ninja skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudo View Post
    1. I am intrigued by an underground kind of life where you can break the rules and get away with it.
    I relate to this. Your second point however I can't relate to, because it sounds like idolizing Rambo or something.

    If you're looking for reasons why, maybe it's a defense mechanism? If one feels alienated and a bit removed from society, then maybe they start to idolize and romanticize the bizarre, the underground, counterculture. Part of their identity is, I suppose, subconsciously attached to this idea that they're not the same as everyone else, and even worst, that there is something wrong with them, so this defense kicks in.

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    Kind of. I'm into revolution and uprisings, protests, reform, and overthrowing the powers that be to make way for better leadership. I'm coming to terms with the fact that it's more natural for me to work against something than for something. I'm thinking that maybe I should consider a career in non-profits fighting hunger or disease, or pushing for negotiation and conflict resolution, or exposure journalism, or something of the like, because it would seem that I'm wired to fight. I relate it to sx/so - I'm not interested in being outside of society, but I enjoy placing myself at the fringe of society and constantly working towards improvement.

    It's just not exciting otherwise.

    In other news - I'm going to get myself killed

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    Sort of. Anything that is not SJ/SP is probably (more) an outlaw.

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    Yes.


    My favorite stories always have the good guy fighting his demons.

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    No, I'm too risk averse. I like my hedonism á la Hobbit rather than á la Hell's Angels.

    It's not that I cannot get into the Robin Hood spirit, I totally can. It's just that most outlaw groups are not less malignant to society than established authority is and I guess I'm sort of a utilitarian humanitarian. If I really believed a group was better, I might be interested in aligning with it.

    However, almost every social group ends up with the same problems that you find no matter what kind of group you're dealing with. Hierarchy, favoritism, pandering, posturing, butthurt egos, etc appear to be universal. Doesn't matter if it's the grand revolution, my kid's role player's guild, OWS, the food drive at church -- I'm guessing you get the same stupid crap with bikers and mobsters, too, it's just more likely to end up with physical injury when somebody gets their panties in a twist. You can't get crap done for it, so the risk of incarceration, etc is just not worth it.

    I'd rather work toward fixing the society we've got than pretending I'm a special little snowflake the rules don't apply to.
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    Haha, no.. I am kind of fascinated why this is the NF Idyllic section. The OP coming from an INTP makes me wonder if it isn't some sort of reaction to baby Fe.

    I do have a tiny bit of outlaw cred, I was a troubled teen. I don't follow rules if I think they're senseless and if I can get away with it. I do have an attraction to slumming, but only because it feels like a place I can go to for very low pressure and it somehow attracts my counterphobic impulses. But outlawing isn't something I'm fascinated with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    I'd rather work toward fixing the society we've got than pretending I'm a special little snowflake the rules don't apply to.
    Me too. Ultimately we're all a part of society, whether we choose to realize it or not.

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