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    I guess I wasn't very clear in what I meant by "second-guessing themselves". I meant second-guessing values and motives, not second-guessing how to act on (or most precisely express) them.

    I've mentioned it elsewhere, but I'm just too lazy to find it, so I'll just have to shamefully self-plagiarize.

    INTJ: I'm going to do A.
    Me: Why?
    INTJ: Because it's the most efficient way to achieve B.
    Me: Why do you want to achieve B?
    INTJ: Because it's the best way to achieve C.
    Me: Why do you want to achieve C?
    INTJ: *blank look*
    Me: What's so great about C? You must have a reason for wanting to achieve it, surely?
    INTJ: *glower*

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    Oh. To deal with people like that, just use the SP defense:

    "Because I feel like it."

    or, alternatively,

    "Because it's cool."
    -Carefully taking sips from the Fire Hose of Knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    I guess I wasn't very clear in what I meant by "second-guessing themselves". I meant second-guessing values and motives, not second-guessing how to act on (or most precisely express) them.

    I've mentioned it elsewhere, but I'm just too lazy to find it, so I'll just have to shamefully self-plagiarize.

    INTJ: I'm going to do A.
    Me: Why?
    INTJ: Because it's the most efficient way to achieve B.
    Me: Why do you want to achieve B?
    INTJ: Because it's the best way to achieve C.
    Me: Why do you want to achieve C?
    INTJ: *blank look*
    Me: What's so great about C? You must have a reason for wanting to achieve it, surely?
    INTJ: *glower*
    Don't question the master plan!
    "The life of the individual has meaning only insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    I guess I wasn't very clear in what I meant by "second-guessing themselves". I meant second-guessing values and motives, not second-guessing how to act on (or most precisely express) them.
    Logic --> Values --> Plan

    Of course I still do have feelings that influence my thoughts, actions, values, and plans.

    As for my motives... my motive is usually to either work on my plan, or act on my plan.
    "The life of the individual has meaning only insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    You believe INTJs second-guess themselves more than INFPs do?
    definitely not when it comes to clothing

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    Just don't get more than one of them in a room. Like all J's they're very opinionated and they'll have a "friendly" debate about anything.

    My main core of friends consists of an ESFJ, an INTJ, and an INXJ (supposedly mostly T) and the latter two are always arguing about something on the news or something they read in their philosophical books. Me and the ESFJ just sit back and wait it out most of the time with a bit of chitchat.

    I think someone mentioned that INTJ's are cute when they're trying to be social. It is quite funny how awkward they can be in the social realm. What's even funnier is that they often aren't even aware of it.

    My INTJ friend just got his first girlfriend and they're having trouble in their relationship. Most of this problem has to do with his ego. His girlfriend's an ESFP BTW. It was great when he asked me, "Am I really that difficult to deal with?" I told him that me and the ESFJ had built up mechanisms to deal with him over the years, having know him for about 10 years.

    Long story short, XXTJ's are the most socially inept of all the personality types but at least IXTJ's aren't jerkwads about it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    You believe INTJs second-guess themselves more than INFPs do?
    Your original statement was correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1207 View Post
    I think someone mentioned that INTJ's are cute when they're trying to be social. It is quite funny how awkward they can be in the social realm. What's even funnier is that they often aren't even aware of it.
    C-cute?!



    Well, perhaps being perceived as 'cute' can offer up some advantages when dealing with people... *jots down notes and schemes*
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    One of my best friends is a INTJ, she's witty and practical, but agrees with me on a lot of things, and I enjoy debate with her (we don't actually debate much, sense we tend to agree on a lot of things, just kinda add in information) XD. As someone else mentioned, I think they are sorta cute in social situations. I've never really met a male INTJ yet surprisingly, but I kind of want to because I have this ideal that I would probably like one. o.o
    "I have damaged my intellect trying to imagine why a man should want to invent a repeating clock, and how another man could be found to lust after it and buy it. The man who can guess these riddles is far on the way to guess why the human race was invented--which is another riddle which tires me."

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    My brother's INTJ or P. He's wonderful. All we do is joke and argue all day. I like that I can say mean things to him sometimes and he just laughs at me.
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