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    Default INFP vs INFJ?

    How come it's so difficult to externally differentiate INFPs and INFJs unless you have one of their opposite type to compare them to? Dx

    It's like...for INFx's, it's much more difficult to determine the J and P types from eachother than other equivalents.

    I can't seem to figure it out...does anyone have any insights?

    (I know for certain I myself am an INFJ because of my Tert Ti and Inf Se)

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    Maybe because they're both dominant Introverts and introverts tend not to vary much externally in real life.

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    Here's an excellent explanation that provides a clear difference between the two types:

    http://www.personalitynation.com/jun...html#post18739

    Enjoy.

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    Hmm...reading that leads me to ask...maybe I tend to sense a person's more introverted functions more dominantly at first?

    Does an introvert's more dominant function seem to come off more strongly in text than it does typical interaction and conversation? (sorry if that didn't make much sense...kinda sleepy atm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribonuke View Post
    Does an introvert's more dominant function seem to come off more strongly in text than it does typical interaction and conversation? (sorry if that didn't make much sense...kinda sleepy atm)
    To me this is an obvious yes, but maybe I'm making it too simplistic.

    I mean, when we're writing, such as on a site like this, we're able to take our time to try to make sense of our internal thoughts and get them out in writing, and often people break down their internal workings (or attempt to).

    In person, the bulk of what you're gonna see is the external, unless the person is actually trying to unravel and show their internal. The more introverted they are, the less you'll have to work with and the less you'll really be able to get a sense of their internal disposition.

    So w/ INFP's, you'd see more of the Ne, w/ INFJ's, the Fe. In theory. In my personal experience, I think I can't resonate as much with the OP, just because I think the Ne can be pretty obvious in NFP's, and it's just something that's lacking in NFJ's. If anything, I would think it would be easier to confuse INFJ's with ISFJ's (shared Fe), at least on the surface/initially. Or depending on context, INFJ's with ISxP's (shared Fe/Se). Until or unless either actually starts divulging their thoughts and concerns/perspectives in the world, and that's when the internal functions will become more obvious.
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    Here's some good advice, never visit Vicky Jo's website, and you should be just fine.

    Edit: Also, Ne is suuuch a dead giveaway. Learn to spot Ne, and you will never confuse to the two again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    Here's some good advice, never visit Vicky Jo's website, and you should be just fine.
    + 1,000,000!!! That site should be obliterated from the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    + 1,000,000!!! That site should be obliterated from the internet.
    On the other hand, she sure knows how to tastefully integrate dolphins into her web design. Not to mention:

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    Haha, Type Fairy, what a wit! And so qualified too!

    That's the thing that makes me sad. These are the people who represent MBTI. The amateur internet typologists seem waaaay more knowledgeable then a lot of these so-called professionals. I don't think I would ever go to a workshop or a seminar, with those hacks running things.

    edit: also, sorry, off-topic. So I will try to provide another tip for INFJ spotting:

    They often have a weird relationship with the material world (oblivious to surroundings, maybe they overeat, don't eat enough, etc, etc.) Unless I just made that up. I think I read something similar from Mary Louise von Franz though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    On the other hand, she sure knows how to tastefully integrate dolphins into her web design. Not to mention:



    Haha, Type Fairy, what a wit! And so qualified too!

    That's the thing that makes me sad. These are the people who represent MBTI. The amateur internet typologists seem waaaay more knowledgeable then a lot of these so-called professionals. I don't think I would ever go to a workshop or a seminar, with those hacks running things.

    edit: also, sorry, off-topic. So I will try to provide another tip for INFJ spotting:

    They often have a weird relationship with the material world (oblivious to surroundings, maybe they overeat, don't eat enough, etc, etc.) Unless I just made that up. I think I read something similar from Mary Louise von Franz though.
    XD I will agree, I was confused about that site, because it seems to focus more on the little itty-bitty details instead of the larger picture.

    However, let me ask you...how DOES one spot Ne? How does it compare to Ni?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribonuke View Post
    I can't seem to figure it out...does anyone have any insights?
    generally introverts are more difficult to pin point then extroverts because, duh, they don't express themselves with as much, so getting to know anything about them takes a bit longer, let alone indications of their type, particularly if you are an introvert yourself, since from my experience you guys seem to open up more easily with extroverts then with each other (though this anecdotal generalization might not always apply, alternatively it might only apply to sexual relationships and self-denying homo-erotic buddy-ism. also, introvert on introvert sex and extrovert on extrovert sex is a sin, i scribbled it in the corner of a bible i stole from a motel, so there you go).

    but once you got close, INFPs and INFJs are not very difficult to differentiate.

    INFJ: Ni>Ti>Fe>Se... naa, just kidding, that's just too awesome of a kind to exist in the MBTI. were where we? right:

    INFJs: Ni>Fe>Ti>Se
    INFPs: Fi>Ne>Si>Te

    Ne vs. Ni:
    if an INFx strike team tries to conquer idea-land in a creative or intellectual conversation, an INFPs creative spur would be the trooper going in with guns blazing in every direction they find, most likely ending up in a friendly fire mess that would turn the whole thing into a fiasco, while the INFJ's will be more like the precision sniper, most likely to kill the officer nobody likes while claiming it's the INFP's friendly fire which he'll get trialed for anyway but now gets the credits. why? because of...

    Fe vs Fi:
    take any sensitive social situation, find a time where what makes sense sociologically does not necessarily makes sense ethically, and the INFJ and INFP will declare war... actually the INFJ will declare it while the INFP will sort of slide into it opportunistically without really noticing, because of well.. P. the point is, if you hear the word "no this is wrong" and it refers to something that the person saying it wants to do but shouldn't do and then decides not to do, then its probably Fi, if you hear the words "no this is wrong" and it refers to someone else regarding something the person saying it has done a multitude of times themselves but has a reason to dislike the person they are referring too by saying it, it's probably Fe.

    P vs. J
    if you are getting to know them from... let's say a dating website or a blog rather then an actual conversation, there are some things that are a lot more likely to relate to Js -sticking to a special diet like being vegan or keeping kosher, being financially stable, obsessing about little details within their environment, etc.

    and since you already expressed knowing the difference between Ti and Se... my job is done.

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