[MBTI General] short rant on NFs

[Amargith]

Yeah, how narrow-minded of me to expect that people make sense! Anything that feels right should be fine! So don't you worry my friend, your feelings really are valid. Just try not to think too much okay?

It wasn't about feelings Blue. Nice to see you do react eventually. It's about being openminded to another perspective, both on the issue and the way people express themselves. Not everyone writes in your style. Just because you have more trouble reading 'their' style, doesn't mean they should conform to you, nor that their points are invalid. I do enjoy your essays, but because of the difference in style, they require me to read them several times to get what you're getting at, just as rags' posts are difficult to you.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

My position, demystified: "BlueWing is full of it."

My point demystified, "Drama is wasted energy. There's got to be a simpler resolution."

 

[Wild horses]

OOOH we have established that this fellar is ISTJ... ?? ( I just assumed it was another NT ranting about us) After all the love we give those ISTJs and what do we get in return...! 'my way of the high way'!!

 

[Wild horses]

Also Blue if you don't mind me asking.. how can a feeling be invalid??

 

[SolitaryWalker]

Also Blue if you don't mind me asking.. how can a feeling be invalid??

When it does not reflect the reality of the situation. For example if I feel that the man next door is a pedophile and then we check his criminal records and find no evidence of his pedophile activities, my feeling will be invalid in that case.

 

[ragashree]

There is no purpose, bluewing, in me simply repeating the same point if you are incapable of understanding what I am saying. You can choose to accept, or not accept, my suggestion that we talk about this issue, with reference to your initial hypothesis, on another thread that has been started for the purpose. This is up to you. Your responses to the suggestion I have made are simply non-sequiturs at present.

 

[SillySapienne]

Who needs a hug?!?!?!

BlueWing needs a hug!!!

 

[SolitaryWalker]

It wasn't about feelings Blue. Nice to see you do react eventually. It's about being openminded to another perspective, both on the issue and the way people express themselves. Not everyone writes in your style. Just because you have more trouble reading 'their' style, doesn't mean they should conform to you, nor that their points are invalid. I do enjoy your essays, but because of the difference in style, they require me to read them several times to get what you're getting at, just as rags' posts are difficult to you.

Oh pardon me! I should be more open-minded to the views of the person who maintains one of the following; 'fdihoshiodsfohisfdoihfdsisfdiohfsdoihdsfiofsd' or 'it is the case that A is true and it is also the case that not A is true'. I have no doubt that making this adjustment would be a very edifying experience for me.

 

[Lady_X]

OOOH we have established that this fellar is ISTJ... ?? ( I just assumed it was another NT ranting about us) After all the love we give those ISTJs and what do we get in return...! 'my way of the high way'!!

nt's seem to appreciate the differences much more...i think.

 

[Jack Flak]

OOOH we have established that this fellar is ISTJ... ?? ( I just assumed it was another NT ranting about us) After all the love we give those ISTJs and what do we get in return...! 'my way of the high way'!!

That is true, you know. When you have an INTP in an argument, they don't become concerned with the rules of engagement, so to speak, and insist that everyone state their cases in explicit, orderly terms. These are the methods of the ISTJ. The INTP is comfortable reading between the lines of all arguments involved, unless they're so boring as to not be read at all!

 

[SolitaryWalker]

There is no purpose, bluewing, in me simply repeating the same point if you are incapable of understanding what I am saying. You can choose to accept, or not accept, my suggestion that we talk about this issue, with reference to your initial hypothesis, on another thread that has been started for the purpose. This is up to you. Your responses to the suggestion I have made are simply non-sequiturs at present.

Why repeat the point if you are unable to state it clearly in the first place?

 

[ragashree]

*at least this thread is making me laugh*

 

[Lady_X]

When it does not reflect the reality of the situation. For example if I feel that the man next door is a pedophile and then we check his criminal records and find no evidence of his pedophile activities, my feeling will be invalid in that case.

ooohh...if i got that creepy pedophile vibe from my neighbor i would trust it!
they don't catch everyone you know. haha

 

[Amargith]

Oh pardon me! I should be more open-minded to the views of the person who maintains one of the following; 'fdihoshiodsfohisfdoihfdsisfdiohfsdoihdsfiofsd' or 'it is the case that A is true and it is also the case that not A is true'. I have no doubt that making this adjustment would be a very edifying experience for me.

It wouldn't kill you to at least check out if he could potentially be right, is all I'm saying. No one knows everything, and imput from others, even when it comes in a difficult format for you, is always at least worth checking out.

 

[bronte]

Would you prefer a world without feeling Blue?

 

[ragashree]

Why repeat the point if you are unable to state it clearly in the first place?

my suggestion that we talk about this issue, with reference to your initial hypothesis, on another thread that has been started for the purpose

Your reading comprehension skills appear to be letting you down, bluewing.

 

[SolitaryWalker]

Your reading comprehension skills appear to be letting you down, bluewing.

What was my initial hypothesis?

 

[ragashree]

Have you forgotten already? I suggest you go back to your first post and look, then.

 

[bronte]

When it does not reflect the reality of the situation. For example if I feel that the man next door is a pedophile and then we check his criminal records and find no evidence of his pedophile activities, my feeling will be invalid in that case.

Wow Bluewing is that how you think feeling works?

No thats pure ignorance

 

[SolitaryWalker]

Would you prefer a world without feeling Blue?

A world without feeling is not possible, because feeling is the cognitive faculty that inhibits or excites our impulses to act. If this did not exist, we simply would be devoid of all motivations to act. For instance, if a mathematician lacked feeling altogether he would have no reason to prefer a plausible proof to an implausible one. Normally he gets a positive sentiment when he sees a plausible idea and a negative sentiment when he sees an implausible idea.

I would prefer a world however where there were no Feelers, this would be the world where everyone uses Feeling in a controlled fashion, not volatile. People would be acting on whim a lot less than they do today, as they would be less likely to be satisfied with believing in something just because it feels right or doing something only because they feel like it, as primacy of Thinking over Feeling insists on some rational basis to ground the decision in.